Work. Alternate title: Please forgive my boredom.

**pepsiman3000** · 05-30-12, 09:56 AM

I see what you mean with the, "the first team can do it and the second can prevent it". Even though you can say that about many occurrences(like saving your attack for when the Tank spawns to prevent a run-back), I can see how it would be annoying.

But what do you mean it takes 15-30 seconds for her to break down the door? Every time I've seen it happen she breaks it in one swipe. When I was in the game of No Mercy the Witch was in the apartment just after you fall down the hole in the floor in the room with the water heater. We were in the white room with the Hummer through the door. We were going to crOwn her, but the SI startled her and my friend closed the door. She ran up to it, three of us shot her, she broke the undamaged door in one swipe, and she was shot once more for the kill.

I personally don't mind people using it(considering she breaks it down in one swipe like it does for me), but it was weird to hear that someone(actually three people) thinks it's cheating. I could understand if they were mad that the Witch didn't down someone after being startled, but closing a door, using what is in the game, is not cheating. By their logic it is, if you don't crOwn the Witch you are a coward and if you startle her you deserve to go down no matter what... makes sense.

**Kanati** · 05-30-12, 05:23 PM

I've never seen her run up to a door and one-swipe destroy it. She always runs up and hits it... looks around a bit... hit's it again maybe... looks around... thinks about it for a while... Has a spot of tea... And by that time she's dead. 99% of the time the door doesn't get broken through.

Try it in single player and see if you can time it. I usually even shoot a hole in the door so I can see if she's up to the door or not. That's how confident I am that she's not going to break through without help from an SI.

**braineater xo** · 05-30-12, 09:25 PM

Hmmm, come to think of it, I've seen people do this on the opposite team. However, I never really considered it cheating. Honestly, I would take it as a great opportunity to get my team in there for a coordinated attack (obviously with the witch's help distracting). It would be a pretty decent hit. :] Tell em to get their big girl panties on and be ready for anything!!

**colossalBOBBY** · 06-24-12, 01:33 PM

That's odd. I've never seen the witch take that long to destroy a door. She always destroys it in one swipe and barrels right through.

Maybe it's another difference between regular and realism?

**Crimson** · 06-24-12, 03:15 PM

Who fucking cares? 80 percent of the Xbox community at least, uses the fire barrel glitch on NM1, nobody should talk. I bet those same exact people done it before.

I personally crown my witches, every. single. time. When people do glitch out Witches, it really irritates me, but using a door is not glitching out a Witch at all, they are just being butthurt. Trust me, I know a thing or 2 about people being butthurt. This one asshole thought I was hacking because he was a Boomer and I shot him through a wall and wouldnt stfu about it the whole game and kept changing all talk on and return to lobby. I told him to shoot me through a wall to prove you CAN do it too, it aint hacking, and he refuses to shoot me through a wall as if he knows he will get proven wrong. This game can get so ridiculous.

And as for kits, its something a lot of wannabe pros do. They play 4v4s and use FYOK and then they go into a random pub game and pull the exact same shit because they think they are wayyy too hot shit for kits even though I seen dozens of these same people go back and get one when they get fucked up. However, there is another reason people play no kits in pub games. Its challenging themselves. You arent good if you really get carried by EVERY kit on the map so thats why people dont take them. But in your case, the people did not take them because they had egos the size of football fields.