Detailed info about the upcomming patch

**chray00** · 02-19-12, 01:57 AM

Yep, in term of weapon and attachment balancing, thats the big one. Here, we have very detailed informations about the upcoming patch, which was due this month (not sure if it got delayed).

Hope this will please all the number and statistic freaks out there

symthic.com • View topic - Upcoming patch changes [Official data from DICE]

If you are lazy and cant bother reading, here's some key elements :

-nerf on the foregrip. DICE will be lowering the amount of horizontal recoil it negates . It will also cause an increase of 20-50% spread for some reasons (derp)
-the suppressor will no longer cause a decrease of damage (it did? lol, never noticed). It will also decrease the spread by 25% instead of 50%
-The flash suppressor will gain from a decrease in recoil, making it a more decent choice
-ASS-VAL will get extended mag (30 bullets instead of 20). I know some of you will be happy.
-Snipers will get a 1.5 damage multiplier if they manage to hit the chest of their targets, making bolt action sniper riffles a one-hit kill machine under 15 meters
-the g3, m60 and m240b will get a max damage buff (34 instead of 30, making them a three-hit kill at close range, like the pecheneg)
-Most assault riffles will get an increased min damage
-most (or all?) PDW will get increased spread

The legitimacy of these informations have been approved by mister Alan Kertz himself

https://twitter.com/#!/Demize99/stat...92548670365696

**Stupid N00bie** · 02-19-12, 02:40 AM

Wait, didn't they say they wanted to NERF the suppressor? I fail to see any reason not to use it. No minimap spotting, no damage decrease, less spread, what the fuck?

Hows about VOIP, you cockbags?

**triggerhappy2005** · 02-19-12, 03:50 AM

Why are they messing with the weapons? There's absolutely no one complaining about them as they are now.

Colossal waste of time.

**Warprosper** · 02-19-12, 06:07 AM

ASVAL 30 rounds... Nice!

**Allane** · 02-19-12, 09:31 AM

Well, I can say I'm happy about the buffs to the M240B and G3A3. I was a killing machine with the G3 before, just wait for this patch to hit.

I am disappointed however that they're forcing the PDWs to be close range weapons only. Granted, there will still always be single shot for when you need to take a shot at range.

Also, something shotgun people won't like, the shotgun damage for buckshot and flechettes are being reduced considerably. The damage for buckshot is now less than flechettes before the patch, and flechettes are just plain weak now. But, if the shotguns fire at least 10 individual shot pellets, they will still kill instantly at point blank. Now, they're just making it more difficult for shotguns to be used at any range but point blank. On the other hand, shotgun frag shells got a sizeable buff. The explosive damage got moved from 50 to 60, and now a direct hit from the 870MCS using frags will deal over 100% in damage.

**Chapel** · 02-19-12, 01:41 PM

just curious, what's the point of the flash suppressor in this game?
currently it makes you LESS accurate and also doesn't hide you on the map.... so who uses it?

**PvtPrivate** · 02-19-12, 02:00 PM

Heard we get a new commo rose.We also need a new god damn minimap and voip.

**Allane** · 02-19-12, 02:00 PM

The Flash Suppressor removes muzzle flash from your gun. You know how you spot most snipers only right after they shoot you and you see the flash from their rifle? The flash suppressor removes that flash, making it harder to tell where you're getting shot from.

On other weapons, the flash hiders are marginally useless. I use the flash hider on the Type 88 w/ bipod, and for some reason I find people shoot at me less when I'm set up and letting the MG rip on people.

**chray00** · 02-19-12, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Allane

Well, I can say I'm happy about the buffs to the M240B and G3A3. I was a killing machine with the G3 before, just wait for this patch to hit.

I am disappointed however that they're forcing the PDWs to be close range weapons only. Granted, there will still always be single shot for when you need to take a shot at range.

Also, something shotgun people won't like, the shotgun damage for buckshot and flechettes are being reduced considerably. The damage for buckshot is now less than flechettes before the patch, and flechettes are just plain weak now. But, if the shotguns fire at least 10 individual shot pellets, they will still kill instantly at point blank. Now, they're just making it more difficult for shotguns to be used at any range but point blank. On the other hand, shotgun frag shells got a sizeable buff. The explosive damage got moved from 50 to 60, and now a direct hit from the 870MCS using frags will deal over 100% in damage.

yep, I don't see the point in tweaking the different shotgun ammunition types. I'm really happy for the g3 buff, but I don't think the ones on the m240 and m60 was justified... The pkp already suffers from the highest amount of recoil and the second lower ROF of all lmgs, its higher damage was its only real benefit... I don't think it was considered overpowered the way it was, I see far more people using the m249, the m240, the RPK or the m27 than people using the pecheneg

**Chapel** · 02-19-12, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Allane

The Flash Suppressor removes muzzle flash from your gun. You know how you spot most snipers only right after they shoot you and you see the flash from their rifle? The flash suppressor removes that flash, making it harder to tell where you're getting shot from.

On other weapons, the flash hiders are marginally useless. I use the flash hider on the Type 88 w/ bipod, and for some reason I find people shoot at me less when I'm set up and letting the MG rip on people.

yeah, but the thing I notice most about snipers is the glint from their scopes... also, doesn't the suppressor hide the muzzle flash as well as reduce recoil and keep you from popping up on the map?