CQC...Who's buying and who's not

**RagunCajun** · 06-08-12, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by moving-target

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**Amador +JP2+** · 06-08-12, 02:40 PM

I don't plan to purchase any “DLC” for this game. Sure it has wonderful pictures and "explosions," but if I wanted to play CoD, I'd buy CoD (which I did and tried on-line once .... and never again). As for the DLC ... what on earth do I need a half million more guns / "options" than I already have? Really ... additional maps “may” be interesting … but without VoIP … no

I'll still play BF3 from time to time, but I am also looking for the next game that includes VoIP and demands if not requires teamwork. I'm checking out that tank game and will look at other games too. I will continue playing PR (obviously not with TPG). As for BF2 … we shall see.

I agree with Civil in this thread. While there are now many folks and many reasons to continue gaming with TPG, if it hadn't been a combination of both (especially team play) I wouldn't have stayed. I don’t play much CS or TF2 anymore because it amounts to little more than a frag fest usually with little real “teamwork” as we knew it in BF2, PR, and BF2142. The ONLY thing that makes BF3 tolerable is that TPG has made the effort to pull TS3 together. The ONLY reason I would visit another server would be to satisfy some stupid milestone I might need to get a piece of equipment I might actually use.

DICE is full of crap. In virtually every single player game at least the NPCs will talk to you. Somehow they figured a multiplayer game didn't require any sound except for the sounds of an explosion and a beep and a bullet? Please ....

**dex71** · 06-08-12, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

The business perspective of gaming communities was never really "whole heartily" supported and probably never will be. It's exactly why we have 3rd party software to manage EA's games with. If EA and similar companies would adopt a practice that helps small gaming communities grow then we would be much more enthusiastic of the products they push. Unfortunately that's not the case with EA and it's not the case with any of the other major companies. Chances are that the future will be no different no matter what company makes the sale.

You're right on, until you hit that second sentence.

EA is the the extreme minority as it pertains to slots (and VOIP as well). Every Valve game that I know of has slot support....for the sole purpose of allowing the small communities to host them. It's in the companies best interest....more hosts = more sales = more players. We have the luxury of having other means of income that many don't. It still doesn't make it right that the Valve games, as well as the forums, must support our newest game. I bet CS:GO has slot support (as well as VOIP) on day 1. Don't go thinking that EA is following some new model for the future.....they are basically saying that their next release will be hosted by them...Xbox style....that is if they ever do another PC game.

I vote with my dollars. I have been having a blast with BF3, and the per-hour rate is pennies...and dropping with every connect. That's not the point. Plopping your coin down for the "premium" only encourages more EA bs, and opens the door for them to do it again....and again.....and again. Either I am part of the solution, or I am part of the problem. I'm done being part of the problem.

**Warprosper** · 06-08-12, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

You're right on, until you hit that second sentence.

EA is the the extreme minority as it pertains to slots (and VOIP as well). Every Valve game that I know of has slot support....for the sole purpose of allowing the small communities to host them. It's in the companies best interest....more hosts = more sales = more players. We have the luxury of having other means of income that many don't. It still doesn't make it right that the Valve games, as well as the forums, must support our newest game. I bet CS:GO has slot support (as well as VOIP) on day 1. Don't go thinking that EA is following some new model for the future.....they are basically saying that their next release will be hosted by them...Xbox style....that is if they ever do another PC game.

I vote with my dollars. I have been having a blast with BF3, and the per-hour rate is pennies...and dropping with every connect. That's not the point. Plopping your coin down for the "premium" only encourages more EA bs, and opens the door for them to do it again....and again.....and again. Either I am part of the solution, or I am part of the problem. I'm done being part of the problem.

That's just it though, you are being part of the solution for the minority and EA doesn't care about the minority.

**dex71** · 06-08-12, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

That's just it though, you are being part of the solution for the minority and EA doesn't care about the minority.

They care about dollars. Giving them money only encourages them to screw us again, and again, and again.

If BC2 had flopped due to lack of VOIP, you can bet your ass that BF3 would have had VOIP......but it didn't. BC2 was a successful seller, so EA had no reason to build it in to BF3. We voted no VOIP with our dollars, and that is all EA hears.
I think what they are doing with the slots is bullshit, and I won't give them one dime in support of it.

**SourceSkills** · 06-09-12, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mobiusxg5

Saddly I find myself playing more.. Red Orchestra 2 and Counter strike Source.. Because of one thing... the maturity of gamers in the BF3 community.. Maximus is right on it.. We lose players not because of the game or the publisher its because how TPG regs and well known admins handle themselves on BF3 battlelog forums and on these forums.. Some well known members were threaten to be banned by DICE because they acted out like little brats who can't see beyond the past and present and not the future..

I find it a big slap in the face for me because I want to be represented by a community that can adapt to change, be mature and not cry all time.

Look tpg still out shines alot of communities out there because the gamers who play on there don't worry about forum talk or immaturity that other gamers have.. But if this immaturity keeps going TPG is going to lose alot of regs and new players because people can't get a grip on themselves..

I'll admit I've said nasty things about EA because of Mass effect 3 and bf3 but really do I just call it quits on ea because they shipped a decent product to me.. Hell no .. calling foul because a company wants to reinvent how a game is played.. is childish and stupid..

If you guys want to play game thats like BF3 but has teamplaying in it.. Give red orchestra 2 a try .. Try servers see how they work. because that game is alot like bf2 only in medium size maps.. but alot of teamplay goes on.. hell you got a commander and a squad lead. in that game.

I agree with you on part with the whining and complaining it seems like everytime I come on this forum someone is always talking smack about EA DICE (voip mostly)

Originally Posted by Mobiusxg5

And guess what I saw... I saw multiple people actually saying no to VOIP on PC.. I'm sorry but thats why dice decided not to put it in.. Gamers already adapted and didn't want it anymore... So don't blame DICE blame yourself for not adapting...

This here continues yours and my points we adapted to BF3s short comings and made our own squad voip and it has been highly successful and sure you have those moments when you get frustrated when your squad isn't on but if you just play well and set the example others will follow

**Tenrou** · 06-09-12, 08:26 PM

I got premium no regrets I play a lot bf3 and TS is so dynamic I really don't miss voip to much.

**chray00** · 06-09-12, 09:25 PM

hope you enjoy your fucking SCAR-L you god damn sheep

**Mobi** · 06-09-12, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by SourceSkills

I agree with you on part with the whining and complaining it seems like everytime I come on this forum someone is always talking smack about EA DICE (voip mostly)

This here continues yours and my points we adapted to BF3s short comings and made our own squad voip and it has been highly successful and sure you have those moments when you get frustrated when your squad isn't on but if you just play well and set the example others will follow

And heres my theory on why they don't include it.. with the amount of players logging in times on Battlelog.. most players have made people who act immature on battlelog as inferior players... Players who can't adapt or accept change.. You can call it trolling.. Millions on millions of players play BF3 with no VOIP support.. DICE has to go through more steps to prevent.. annoying instances with nuance players .. having a player blast music in there mic while playing on a server and using squad chat and no mute feature you will have a problem..

But my point is.. theres so few players demanding VOIP while the rest of the millions of players playing on PC are staying on the boat.. and playing the game.