Thread: 64 Player Full Rotation BF4 server going "New School"

Originally Posted by CleverGeek

It would be nice if it was a server setting to require it, but that would eliminate a lot of players. Without it managing it on a full server would become a nightmare. Plus being cognizant of non-English speaking players and sensitive to that.. It would be a hard thing to demand but would be nice to have full communications with a squad all the time.

Well... You can see who clearly has VOIP disabled, but not those who have VOIP enabled, but don't have a mic... I'd say that less than 10% of players use their mic... it's probably much smaller than that.

Originally Posted by WileECyte

Well... You can see who clearly has VOIP disabled, but not those who have VOIP enabled, but don't have a mic... I'd say that less than 10% of players use their mic... it's probably much smaller than that.

And this is why you see most of the regs all clamoring to be on one side, so there can be full squads of voip enabled players.

Originally Posted by CleverGeek

It would be nice if it was a server setting to require it, but that would eliminate a lot of players. Without it managing it on a full server would become a nightmare. Plus being cognizant of non-English speaking players and sensitive to that.. It would be a hard thing to demand but would be nice to have full communications with a squad all the time.

We have had many players, through the years, show up on our doorsteps having never used their mics in-game. Usually, after a few rounds with players who are moving and communicating with each other, these same players would be getting their mics set up. The trick isn't forcing them to use their mics, it's getting them to WANT to use their mics. When we do that, we are doing it right. Conversion is victory without loss.

Originally Posted by dex71

We have had many players, through the years, show up on our doorsteps having never used their mics in-game. Usually, after a few rounds with players who are moving and communicating with each other, these same players would be getting their mics set up. The trick isn't forcing them to use their mics, it's getting them to WANT to use their mics. When we do that, we are doing it right. Conversion is victory without loss.

This is bang on and the reason I try to use my sexy voice and speak very provocatively in game. Yet I don't think it is working.. hmm.

Clever has a point about the squad and people who use VOIP clamoring for the side with people who use it though. We need more leaders out there. More people to stand up and join different squads and show them how it's done.

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Originally Posted by SourceSkills

Clever has a point about the squad and people who use VOIP clamoring for the side with people who use it though. We need more leaders out there. More people to stand up and join different squads and show them how it's done.

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Although it might not be a popular thought, I see other clan servers still promoting their TS despite there being in game VOIP. Perhaps this is something we want to do in game? Make a BF4 Lobby channel for in between rounds? This might get people talking more.

Originally Posted by SourceSkills

Clever has a point about the squad and people who use VOIP clamoring for the side with people who use it though. We need more leaders out there. More people to stand up and join different squads and show them how it's done.

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There's a problem with this. While players may have VOIP on, they may have muted the game so they can listen to music or something else while they play. As a result, 70% of the time when I issue an order via VOIP and via in-game command, the randoms in my squad just ignore it. I kick people who are blatantly ignoring my orders, but they usually visit the point often enough that I excuse them (curse me for being too nice sometimes).

I will admit that I'm guilty of abandoning a squad of random connects in favor of a TPG squad, multiple times. I derive no pleasure from BF4 unless I have people who are talking with me and working together, which makes those moments when you find random connects who can work together all the more epic (especially when you lead them to an Ace Squad).

I do think it's important to have at least one squad that is heavily TPG reg based, as it means there's at least one squad that can get shit done.

Originally Posted by Allane

There's a problem with this. While players may have VOIP on, they may have muted the game so they can listen to music or something else while they play. As a result, 70% of the time when I issue an order via VOIP and via in-game command, the randoms in my squad just ignore it. I kick people who are blatantly ignoring my orders, but they usually visit the point often enough that I excuse them (curse me for being too nice sometimes).

I will admit that I'm guilty of abandoning a squad of random connects in favor of a TPG squad, multiple times. I derive no pleasure from BF4 unless I have people who are talking with me and working together, which makes those moments when you find random connects who can work together all the more epic (especially when you lead them to an Ace Squad).

I do think it's important to have at least one squad that is heavily TPG reg based, as it means there's at least one squad that can get shit done.

If you have problems with people not following orders you should tell an admin. That goes for the squad leaders to even if they aren't using VOIP.

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Originally Posted by dex71

We have had many players, through the years, show up on our doorsteps having never used their mics in-game. Usually, after a few rounds with players who are moving and communicating with each other, these same players would be getting their mics set up. The trick isn't forcing them to use their mics, it's getting them to WANT to use their mics. When we do that, we are doing it right. Conversion is victory without loss.

Warflagon circa 2007 BF2.

That's what hooked me, my first round on TPG was in an SsT squad on Karkand and my SL addressed me directly over Voip and told me to watch the alley at hotel while the rest of the squad watched the flag.

It was all insults and penis jokes from there

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