Admins....Some guys need to be looked at...

**{VSSq} Shadow** · 10-24-07, 02:26 AM

I only bring this to your attention because I have played on your servers many times before and know how you guys feel about the rules you have set in place. That being said I had a horrible time this AM playing you your server. There was bunch of non cap raping....so much that it was not worth playing. To my knowledge there were no admins on at the time so the actions went uncheck. However I did take some screenshots of Wake Island when the worst of it was going on. Just figure you might want to know.

SoHot...the main culprit attacking the non cap. (carrier)
[img width=700 height=559]http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/9878/screen023ik4.jpg[/img]

Another one attacking non cap. (carrier)
[img width=700 height=559]http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8826/screen024ss2.jpg[/img]

A shot to show SoHot's score to prove how much he had been no cap raping.
[img width=700 height=559]http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3070/screen025ex6.jpg[/img]

Enemy chopper dropping behind and on the carrier.
[img width=700 height=559]http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6240/screen026tx5.jpg[/img]

Just figure you guys might want to know.
Shadow793

**clone_armorsmith** · 10-24-07, 04:21 AM

Pulled from #3 on the BF2 rules page...

"It is NOT the enemy's moral, ethical, or honorable responsibility to NOT attack it, even if it is uncapturable. If it is left exposed, and winds up with enemy MG's, vehicles, or snipers cutting down everyone that is spawning......yes, it's horrible. Oh, the agony. Oh, the suffering and gnashing of teeth. Yes, you are going to lose.

But before you cry out spawn camping, spawn raping, and asking the admin to save you.......think about what you are asking:

"Admin, kick these spawn campers!" in reality means, "Admin, please help me survive by slaying my enemies, so I can fight back, take enemy territory, and win." "

I know it sucks to get your ass handed to you by an aircraft (I am a permanent icePepper bitch-target, thank you) but that is how it goes. Read all the captions on the loading page and anything green that pops up when you play. I believe it says that it is allowed. That only means you need to get better and knock him out of the sky. Pilots know where the anti-aircraft sites are and will fly low, pop up and knock you out, then cruise out unnoticed. Just trying to be the devils advocate here...no hard feelings.

Sorry to those if I stepped out of line to answer...

**SwIfTjEzTa** · 10-24-07, 04:26 AM

yo shadow if you read the green text the apears at times one says there is no rules aganist attacking upcap man.....i am a regular on this server and i wouldnt do anything that is aganist the rules but i know that one first hand is not aganist the rules. I have been bombed by pretty much ever air person on a uncap once on this server.

**MotoZ** · 10-24-07, 06:51 AM

Attacking uncaps is allowed on the BF2 server.

**Nuckle** · 10-24-07, 07:00 AM

Shadow,

Thanks for stopping by our forums and thank you for attempting to help us improve game play. We do want people like you that spot things they "think" are out of line and report them to us. In this case as others posted all areas of the battlefield are hostile including the uncaps.

Now that you are here please look around and read up on our rules. We hope that you make us your home and continue to help us make this the best gaming community on the planet.

Nuck

**tgross791** · 10-24-07, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by {VSSq} Shadow

I only bring this to your attention because I have played on your servers many times before and know how you guys feel about the rules you have set in place. That being said I had a horrible time this AM playing you your server. There was bunch of non cap raping....so much that it was not worth playing. To my knowledge there were no admins on at the time so the actions went uncheck. However I did take some screenshots of Wake Island when the worst of it was going on. Just figure you might want to know.

As clone put it perfectly, it is legal, and any admin will tell you that as well as any regular playing. Yes, it can be frustrating but, its online war.

**w4jchosen** · 10-24-07, 09:41 AM

Hey Shadow,

Thanks for making it to the forums and I won't repeat what everyone else has said, but will say this. The way to prevent that is for the squads on your team to follow the commander's directive or the SL's and cap flags. This will take the attention off of the uncap. Granted this is probably the most difficult on the USMC side of Wake and have been on the receiving end before. If the USMC side will do their job on the ground attacking the carrier becomes only a minor nuisance.

Sqauds with AT, specops and medics are the most effective for the USMC on this map and stay out of vehicles. That way you don't attract the air power. It works well since most of the flags are only a short distance from one another. Defense is also a key on this map instead of capping and running.

We appreciate your time on our servers and the time you will spend in the forums. Keep coming back

**Saltspring** · 10-24-07, 10:15 AM

That attacking the uncap is allowed is one of the big reasons I play on this server, it's fair just think about what happens when the airfield on wake is captured, it can almost be game over for the chinese in the first five minutes of the round, to limit attacking the carrier makes that far more likely. Yeah every now and then I get butchered and I do gripe about it but i hardly play on any other server, except TTP Project Reality server. Well that's my two cents, hope you stick around Shadow.

**...bigdog...** · 10-24-07, 10:29 AM

good show, guys.

Shadow.....we deliberated, argued, fought, and attacked eachother coming to grips in setting the rule of attack rear spawns, uncaps, etc.

but in the end.....logic and fairness win. Though there are many, MANY communities and servers that make rules about uncap flags and spawns.....the reality is....those rules are totally unfair, biased, and unenforceable on an equal and consistent basis.

If your team is backed into a wall, stuck on the carrier, being suppressed on the deck, and incapable of defending itself........then you lose. And that's what games are about. Winning and losing.

We force team switches at the end of the round, so you and your team have the opportunity to return the base raping favor, and avenge your loss.

But games are about winning and losing. Not about playing around forever, without consequences for the actions, or inactions, of your team. In theory...there is SOME reason the USMC team was backed onto the carrier. There is SOME reason they were unable to keep BOTH of their highly effective AA guns live and firing. There is SOME reason they were unable to keep helicopters from landing on the deck and invading teh carrier.

But none of those reasons have anything to do with cheating, abusing, or exploiting. the other team got their shit together, and the USMC didn't.

So....the USMC got blown out.

Blow outs happen........nobody likes getting embarassed, but that's part of playing the game.

locked.