Thread: Argh! Worst Command EVER!

Well let me be the first to say hi and welcome to the boards. Now onto your post I saw a lot things I'd like to discuss with you about.

Originally Posted by VultureTX

Well I think TMD has the objective perpective on this. TTP has a UNIQUE set of rules and admins that enforce them quite strictly when it comes to non regulars.

Non-regs are people who just haven't played the server for awhile. The admins here play no favorites and if your impeding someone Else's fun by being a non team player your going to find yourself banned. There no more stricter on regs than they are on non. The fact is regs just know whats expecting of them because they have played here so long. Hence why you won't see regs posting in the banned forums to often.

Originally Posted by VultureTX

It appears that TTPs style is that the commander is GOD and when he orders a squad to do something, then that's it. Does not matter that the squad is efficiently killing the enemey or supressing silo grabbing. Because X got the position then X's word is law. And consider that voting is borked, not much to change a bad round.

When your commander and you have a plan you will enjoy ttp rules that so called "commander is god." A perfect example in Minsk was when squad 4 leader decided he was above me and was going to continue to assault silo 4 while I told him and all the squad leaders the plan was 1,2, and 3 silos. I wasn't able to get 3 for a much longer time because he tied up 6 people at silo 4. Do you see a problem there, if you don't then that's a problem. I see much more of the battlefield than my squad leaders and that's a fact. So when I decide to do something it's because I want the win just as much as you do. We have to trust one another to get that win. Honestly I commanded the 1st game late we were behind a large amount in shield. That's why I needed everyone to follow orders and those that didn't got booted and the ones that followed got the big W-I-N.

Originally Posted by VultureTX

As for the 5th, I always get the idea that they are actually talking on TS or Vent and are rarely "part" of a squad when there is only 1 or 2 playing on that team. As for the Admins, you do have pretty good server coverage and consistency towards the hordes. The whole squad up or die is nice but the condense squads gets carried to extremes. I have been told now multiple times to join up with a squad where the SL does not talk, does not update objectives (unless prodded by the commander) and is a regular here. Sorry when all other squads are 6/6, and the choice is bad SL, I guess I will be a Lone Ranger RepairMan and go hunt tanks and Gunships. [you would be suprised how often I get recruited in the next vacancy when I routinely show up to destroy tanks and repair their poor walkers]

Ummm I am ][5th][ and believe me we don't use vent or any third party software to communicate over the game. We use Voip like everyone else to play the game. I also find it hard to believe that any 5th clan member wouldn't be "part of the team" as you claim. We strive to be team players and by all means if you fin someone not living up to our claim you can address that with one of our great leaders. If theres a squad leader that doesn't communicate with voip they need to step down so that someone who does can lead. Ask for an admin if they don't want to comply, because all commanders and squad leaders must have voip. I had a lot of 1 man squads last night and all that does is add more micromanagement to the commander. I need full squads not lone rangers running all over the map. Obviously if there all full you have to make your own, but that wasn't the case most times. Yeah it sucks to have a squad leader that only updates as commander gives orders, but if there following commander orders I have no problem with them.

Originally Posted by VultureTX

Like I said this subject actually got me to register on TTP.

Well I'm glad my little rant brought someone into the fold.

Originally Posted by Angellmajick

the other thing to think about when saying that any reg here is on another sysem...are you talking? A lot of regs will only try so hard to get a squad to talk...some of them will annoy the hell out of people talking just so they get the point, but others just follow the orders and play the quietly, talking only when need be.

I'm part of the latter. I won't say a lot more than I need to and only occasionally chat with the rest of the squad...like when Tater got killed by some armor because a squad member didn't understand his screams of "GET ON THE ROOSH!"...and then Tater's following dress down of "God damn it! You were standing right next to it, don't you know what a roosh is!?!?" I was like, "Did you just say roosh?". Tater: "Oh yeah, my bad :10". Classic Tater moment.

Okay, now back to the main thread. The majority of our non-teamplayers, asshats, and clowns that we tend to have coming around I think are that way because they share one single thought: "I want as many points as I can get."

Obviously to us, it seems counter productive to think that and then go off on your own. But think about it this way, put yourself in their mind. Now when it comes to objectives, who has the better judgement? The guy upstairs or them? If they're thinking about points, then they also think they have the better judgement.

This I think is the main problem. Any suggestions for breaking people out of this though aside from the usual kick/ban?