Step up to the plate

**WileECyte** · 03-27-10, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by enumae-k

Before you make comments about a resident clan members supposed lack of pride in this community, you should probably try and discuss your concerns with them in a PM. Maybe they saw the situation differently. Just a thought.

If not, you could call them out on the forums and openly discuss both sides of the situation.

You know, I really didn't read this as a stacking thread. He's calling out ALL resident clan members and regulars because we ARE TTP and should be leading the way... He's not singling out any one clan. I took this as an open letter to fight the good fight and expound the ways of TTP.

**619summon** · 03-27-10, 10:32 AM

just speak up in game, somtimes i can play and never know the teams are fucked untill someone says...TEAMS!

clans will always be clans ttp or otherwise.

**Thorsen** · 03-27-10, 01:00 PM

Yeah definitely good to call out bad teams when you see them. Its hard to notice in the rush of battle sometimes.

**enumae-k** · 03-27-10, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by WileECyte

You know, I really didn't read this as a stacking thread...

I didn't either and is why I didn't mention team stacking.

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Originally Posted by kilo33

But - as you were there - Why didn't you speak up about balance or to discourage the base rape while trying to prime the server?

The balance issue your talking about, well it was 4 on 2 for about 3-5 minutes. Not really an issue.

All areas of the battlefield are hostile! I went in your main early on and killed you, then I left your main. Now if your talking about us sitting back and waiting for you to drive armor out of your main (4 times) and shooting you with tank shells, UAV and AT, well maybe you should have moved out on foot and not given us an easy target. We sat outside, though the AT guy was close, and I don't recall players running around in your main. If they were, I didn't see them.

To make sure you and everyone else understand, the server was full by the end of the next round. What happened is a non issue.

**Keiron** · 03-27-10, 05:50 PM

What I have noticed is that when you have the other team pushed back up to just their starting area, the teams are usually unbalanced by several players.

When trying to prime though, I usually don't care too much about it. Just mess around with stuff and try to learn some different tactics. Hell last weekend I believe it was me and Frag were trying to prime one of the Rush servers and I was trying to learn how to be a better sniper and aim better. Didn't always work out well but it is a good way to keep people interested for a little bit.

Teams get uneven when you are trying to prime. It happens. And with the inability to easily change teams on an as needed basis, it just makes it that much more difficult.

**kilo33** · 03-27-10, 05:58 PM

The round started 2 to 4... then it was 3 to 7.
Then I asked for Team Balance it dropped to 3 to 5 - then 2 to 5 then 3 to 5 again.

I asked for Teams, I asked for Teams... oh and I mentioned a couple of times about teams. You didn't say one word on All Chat the entire time.

You and I were the only Tagged members on the server at the time.

I (and It was just 'I' because the other two on my team were recon kits and were sitting off behind C doing nothing that I could see) - could not spawn ANYWHERE but the deployment area. It did not matter if I ran out, rode out on the quad, or the few times I brought armor... 'I' was camped by all members of the opposing team. Needless to say, after being ignored by the two recon kits on my side - and no response from your side for team balance - I did not remain to prime the server for the sudden influx of players on the next round.

- So in the end - I guess its he said he said... EXCEPT -
you have already stated that you recall it being 2 vs 4. With you being on the 4 man team... When I called for team balance why didn't YOU, being the other tagged member of the TTP community I recognized, switch over to balance the teams out?

**enumae-k** · 03-27-10, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by kilo33

I (and It was just 'I' because the other two on my team were recon kits and were sitting off behind C doing nothing that I could see) - could not spawn ANYWHERE but the deployment area.

So, can you explain why you didn't spawn on either of the two snipers? If they were not squaded, did you call out for an admin about the unsquaded players? I didn't see any messages.

Originally Posted by kilo33

When I called for team balance why didn't YOU, being the other tagged member of the TTP community I recognized, switch over to balance the teams out?

The way I recall the situation, it was only like that for a few minutes. We don't micro manage games.

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What I am saying is, if you hadn't written this thread minutes after the round ended I could see the usefulness. To be honest though, all I see in this thread is a player who was upset after the round ended, came straight to the forums and decided to let out ones frustrations in this thread and also calling out a resident clan member for seeing the situation differently.

If you have any other issues, take it to PM's

**investigater** · 03-27-10, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by enumae-k

If you have any other issues, take it to PM's

Good advise...

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And....

Originally Posted by investigater

Admins can be watching whether they are playing or not. Calling out griefers, hackers, team killers, _______.......everyone should point these guys out. It is the same as any other game that TTP hosts. I know a lot of you have x-fire and steam running, never hurts to try and message an admin to get the problem player resolved.

And.... base raping is a valid tactic otherwise they would have made the base(s) 'Out Of Bounds' for the opposing team. However, it is a little overkill while in priming mode as you want to attract attention, not scare them away.

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**trailhunter** · 03-27-10, 11:03 PM

I am seeing a lot of this from the TTP regs. Clan tags are the most noticeable. The shit has got to stop, it's not that hard to look at the scoreboard and switch up. Even if it is 2 on 4, we know the balance issues and yet sit on the opposing teams and not switch.

There is no excuse for anyone here to balance the server when possible. Yes, it sucks to not be able to switch, but I have found if I exit the game and come back in, I am then able to switch. 4 on 2 is a 50% advantage and is enormous in this game with kills being so quick, 6 on 4 not as bad but still a bitch sometimes and so on.

I think the initial post is a good one and needs to be adhered to, whether it was meant for all of TTP or for a specific individual.