Battlefield 3 ships Fall 2011 -- includes jets, prone, and 64 player mu

**WileECyte** · 02-09-11, 10:44 AM

Fixed AA sites like BF2 had are not a deterrent to jets in the slightest. Most good pilots know where they all are, and know how to approach them and they can destroy them with guns long before the AA site can even get a lock on the jet. Mobile AA units were OK but huge rolling targets. Shoulder-fired AA, like in 2142, was effective mainly because they don't get a giant box painted on them for easy hunting by the gunships. Good pilots could still effectively evade, but they were much more of a deterrent than fixed sites ever were.

**Blakeman** · 02-09-11, 11:07 AM

I wouldn't mind if there were no jets at all since the maps will probably not be large.

**maximusboomus** · 02-09-11, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Partyball

Wait, so jets kill a lot of people if they aren't dealt with properly? Who knew?

They should be easy to rape a lot of people. That's what they are MADE for. Anyone with a brain in an AA will piss off a jet to no end to the point they will only focus on the AA. Rendering it useless other than to take out the AA and let our jets shoot them down because their flares are out.

^This^

I hate airwhores... but only when they are on the opposing team

**QuickLightning** · 02-09-11, 12:02 PM

I'm guessing (and hoping) they will make air more similar to 2142. Where a single infantry carrying a SAAW can keep them out of the sky.

**BuddyLee.** · 02-09-11, 01:02 PM

Working voip, end of story.

BL

**moving-target** · 02-09-11, 01:03 PM

it will be all about the sniper element for me sniping in bf games sucks headshot should = insta kill not 2 bars left so far best sniper element i played was cod4

**WileECyte** · 02-09-11, 01:11 PM

Headshots in BF2 = death. You're likely not getting an actual headshot if you're not killing them with a single shot.

**Partyball** · 02-09-11, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by WileECyte

Fixed AA sites like BF2 had are not a deterrent to jets in the slightest. Most good pilots know where they all are, and know how to approach them and they can destroy them with guns long before the AA site can even get a lock on the jet. Mobile AA units were OK but huge rolling targets. Shoulder-fired AA, like in 2142, was effective mainly because they don't get a giant box painted on them for easy hunting by the gunships. Good pilots could still effectively evade, but they were much more of a deterrent than fixed sites ever were.

The bolded word is the keyword. A good pilot shouldn't be easy to shoot down. That's what makes them good.

**kawaltd750** · 02-09-11, 04:06 PM

But here is the Darwinian clause: Good pilots are not bred, they evolve from crashing newbie to air whores. They are good because they log a lot of times on planes. Good players take less time to become good, a few make it to great. And there is the law of diminishing return.

In short, BF2 as it is doesn't make it hard to be an ordinary pilot with thousands of kills...........

Shoulder firing sam would cull the hurd......