Thread: Regular or Harcore

Originally Posted by deputyfestus

I just don't get it, trigger has offered to pay for a month and I'll bet someone would volunteer to setup. I think it would be safe to say that we (the pro vanilla players) just want a place at our chosen home for gaming to play a game with friends that play with teamwork in mind. Hell let the people that want it be responsible for admin and maint. issues and if it draws peeps from HC Personally I don't care if it has a TS channel cause the people that want to play all want the same thing TEAMPLAY and TPG is virtually the only server host that requires it. I doubt that any of this means anything to anyone other than myself but I've been here for awhile and will continue to call TTP home regardless of the outcome.

While the offer is nice.....and I truly mean that, TPG will pay for TPG's servers.

That being said......STAY TUNED. More info coming soon......very soon.

AWESOME

Originally Posted by dex71

While the offer is nice.....and I truly mean that, TPG will pay for TPG's servers.

We certainly won't turn away money for reserved slots, though. </plug>

Originally Posted by Imisnew2

You know what? Fuck off. Rico, you had my respect before this outburst.
Why are you all so stuck up?". That's just being a fucking asshole.
(oh my fucking goodness, you mean, we're not just stuck up?)
Read the fucking thread, OR ask someone "Hey, why aren't we considering a regular server when we have 20+ people willing to man it?"... and you'll probably get a version of what I just said, without the cursing and lack of respect.
Oh, and fuck off thinking the admins determine the direction of the server.

Wow is right...
I'm just going to respond with this... I prefer to use the F word as a Verb.... I suggest you may want to think about it too.... It might help ease the frustration... If you know what I mean.
I did see the apology... But please think about some self controll before posting..
This is a game folks!
The Freak

Originally Posted by iamjohnnyrico

Still havent answered the question of do the admins choose based on their own preferences or do the players choose?

As far as accusations go, I didn't attack or accuse a specific individual, I merely used a large brush across the TPG canvas. Two things may occur from this, either the admin community (volunteers) stand up for each other and make a brick wall or the volunteers/admins become self reflective and weigh this matter thoroughly.

I've taken a poll from numerous admins and every volunteer/admin i've approached thru direct speech has quickly answered back, "I hate regular mode..." Now being a "popular player" on this server, I've had countless of regular (reservists) purchase BC2 and wish to play on the TPG server - but they hate/abhor the HC mode. So many of those players either join me on another server and we play to our hearts content. Phrases starting with "The admin community has been inslulted" will never win a war but merely a battle. We cannot have forums where someone questions the game mode, not the rules but a game mode, then gets a reply - youve insulted the admin community and then expect to have proper dialog.

Believe me, Im not here to run a stake thru TPG's heart and drown it of its many victories, but rather a player interested in getting more of the community involved in a specific game and grow the community. This is my opinion.

So...

Still havent answered the question of do the admins choose based on their own preferences or do the players choose?

Whats this off of? Kind of feels like accusations before polite questions, no need to be sardonic. You've run into the room shouting something equivalent to "YOU DISCRIMINATE AGAINST PLAYERS BY PRIORITIZING THE OPINIONS OF ADMINS", rather then just a simple "hey, so we've got a HC server up, running full damn near 24/7, how about a softcore server, now?" and rounding up interest...

First,
Course we prioritized the opinions of admins ever so slightly more than players. Admins are guaranteed primers, almost by contract, so we can expect game play from them if they voted they prefer X over Y. We fire admins for not enough play time, we cannot fire players. So yes, during the initial stages of setup the second time around, admins (from open signups) were valued mored, because their the ones we can count on priming. gotta appeal to them first, right? After all, the server will not get player traffic unless it has primers and we have no primers unless we appeal to the primers: the primers whom are statistically made up of more admins, than players.



Sure the vote may have been in the admin section, because we know the voters then, ARE BC2 players let alone GOING to be on the server. You see players who dont even play the game voting in polls on games they dont play (and never plan to) all the time. Take for instance the recent tf2 poll on FF after a round. I saw users going in voting, and saying things like "i dont play tf2, never have but i voted". What the hell, get out of the poll then! Unfortunately, we do not have a method for only allowing active players of ____ game to vote. The closet thing we have is surveying the poll against admins only of that game. Which guarantees the poll is not skewed by idiots.

Granted theres the obvious downfall of locking out the opinions of the active players (who are not admins) of that game. This may have been what happened with the vote for the initial polling for softcore vs hardcore for TPG's second BC2 attempt. Plus we had the added tilt, that after open admin signups, many players did get to vote, because they were now admins.

So there has to be admin interest in it, either from already hired admins, or players interested in applying for adminship. but you also have to keep in mind, admins are players and 30 admins whom prefer hardcore over anything less than 20 players whom prefer softcore, is still majority on a vote of player opinions. Until counter opinion rises to a quantity large enough to justify a second server, then yes, technically admins opinions are valued more. But their being admin's is only coincidence, like if they were all wearing green on the same day. It doesnt change the fact that theres still 30 players (whom happen to be admins) vs ____ who want something else.












I've clearly missed something, but honestly, I do not plan to read 20 pages of whining and flaming. My TPG todo list is gigantic and everyone will appreciate the time not spent studying these gigantic threads. F

From what i gather though, everyone (admin's included), need to have a cup of shut-the-$%^-up, take a few to chill, and re-approach this in a manner that does not resemble the approach one would take when trying to grab a rattlesnake bare handed. Because everyones approach here is shit, either by nature of trolling and accusations, or by baiting, from standard logic we know accusations will not be quelled by counter accusations.

Originally Posted by Mock Conversation

So you want a softcore bc2 server?
>Alright whats the interest? Lets poll and find out?
Did that, interest is there,
>alright bam server is up.

TPG always entertains interest for hosting a new game or a different flavor of an already hosted game, and damn near always hosts if there is sufficient interest. No need for this *gestures to hole thread after first few posts*.

Finita la commedia!

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