Thread: The People of TTP. Please Join us March 24.

And then there was this in May.

And this last year.

So, now we have the president allowing himself to suspend republic actions, Haliburton building prison camps, and the congress defining homegrown terrorism with remarkably vague wording that could be taken to mean almost anything. This is completely insane. And seriously, where the fuck is the media when this bullshit happens? 28 reps out of 432 allowed this to go through? And all I find about this in the mainstream media is a little vote scorecard on Washington Post?

This bill is even worse than the Patriot Act, and it went through with flying colors. And this nor the presidential directive made the news. At all. It's ridiculous how easy it has been for one administration to erode Constitutional rights over just 8 years.

Freedom has been dead for a long time in America, I seem to remember something similar happening in 1798 or thereabouts.

Just remember that 2+2 is what ever the government tells you it is.

Wow land of the brave went out the window. I am ashamed of my country, one terrorist attack and people are giving our liberties away for the illusion of security. What do I have to do to legally become a citizen of Britian?

Cut your balls off, give them to the state and allow them to fuck you with your own equipment.

Originally Posted by Sedistix

..(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term ..homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

Just thought: this makes it illegal to be a policeman...

Originally Posted by Ged

Cut your balls off, give them to the state and allow them to fuck you with your own equipment.

Um that doesn't sound quite right.

Welcome to England, we're not quite right.

From the Patriot Act onward Congress has marched lock step with the Prezident and his group of nazi-ish thugs by shredding the bill of rights one amendment after another - IMO when any of the first 10 rights, the Bill of Rights, is nullified the deal is off and a new constitutional convention should be convened. Let the states re build it all over again. My comments surely have me on a list of extremists... but its a sad day when a man that values the meaning behind the Constitution on the Liberties guarded by the bill of rights is afraid to speak about his government.

Originally Posted by Mike Adams

The end of Free Speech in America has arrived at our doorstep. It's a new law called the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, and it is worded in a clever way that could allow the U.S. government to arrest and incarcerate any individual who speaks out against the Bush Administration, the war on Iraq, the Department of Homeland Security or any government agency (including the FDA). The law has already passed the House on a traitorous vote of 405 to 6, and it is now being considered in the Senate where a vote is imminent. All over the internet, intelligent people who care about freedom are speaking out against this extremely dangerous law: Philip Giraldi at the Huffington Post, Declan McCullagh at CNET's News.com, Kathryn Smith at OpEdNews.com, and of course Alex Jones at PrisonPlanet.com

This bill is the beginning of the end of Free Speech in America. If it passes, all the information sources you know and trust could be shut down and their authors imprisoned. NewsTarget could be taken offline and I could be arrested as a "terrorist." Jeff Rense at Jeff Rense Program could be labeled a "terrorist" and arrested. Byron Richards, Len Horowitz, Paul Craig Roberts, Greg Palast, Ron Paul and even Al Gore could all be arrested, silenced and incarcerated. This is not an exaggeration. It is a literal reading of the law, which you can check yourself here: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc110/h1955_rfs.xml

The bill states:

'...ideologically based violence' means the use, planned use, or threatened use of force or violence by a group or individual to promote the group or individual's political, religious, or social beliefs...

Note that this means the "planned use of force to promote a political or social belief" would be considered an act of terrorism. This all hinges on the definition of "force," of course. Based on the loose use of logic in Washington these days, and the slippery interpretation of the meaning of words, "force" could mean:

A grassroots campaign to barrage Congress with faxes
A non-violent street protest
A letter-writing campaign that deluges the Senate with too much mail
A sit-in protest that blocks access to a business or organization
A grassroots e-mail campaign that overloads the e-mail servers of any government department or agency

You get the idea. "Force" could be defined as practically anything. And since the "planned use of force" would be considered a criminal act of terrorism, anyone who simply thinks about a grassroots action campaign would be engaged in terrorist acts.

If you stopped someone on the street and handed them a Religious text for Christianity, Islam, Wicca or anything else, this could be considered an act of terrorism ("...use of force to promote the individual's religious beliefs...")

If you sent a barrage of angry letters to Washington about global warming and the destruction of the environment by the U.S. military, this could also be considered an act of terrorism ("...to promote the individual's political beliefs...")

Simply speaking out against the war on Iraq could soon be labeled a crime. Merely thinking thoughts against the war on Iraq could be considered a criminal act.

This bill is designed to squash all opposition to the State's ongoing march towards blatant fascism, where secret police and secret prisons dominate the law enforcement landscape, stripping U.S. citizens of all civil liberties and Constitutional protections.

Thoughtcrimes are about to become a reality in the United States of America, and Congress is pushing this through as quickly as possible so that each individual member of Congress can claim that he or she is "against terrorism." But this bill doesn't merely target terrorism: It targets anyone who speaks or even thinks thoughts against the U.S. federal government.

With this bill, the U.S. government is officially labeling the People of the United States as criminals. It is drawing a line in the sand and stating that from now on, it's the Government vs. the People.

There is no turning back from tyranny once the government turns its own citizens into criminals, enforcing only the thoughts, ideas, words and speeches that it approves or tolerates. Everything is at stake here!

Think it couldn't happen here? It's happening right now! This is exactly how it happened in Nazi Germany. First, burn the Reichstag and blame it on the "enemy." Pass new police state laws. Disarm the people. Spread fear. Erect secret prisons and secret police. Call anyone who disagrees with you a "traitor." Control the mainstream media. Sound familiar? This is all happening right now in the United States of America.

Senate Bill 1959 to Criminalize Thoughts, Blogs, Books and Free Speech Across America

Nice to see they continue to work towards turning the US into a fascist state run by a dictator and a rubber stamp legislative and judicial branch - it makes me sick to see it happen and all the while everyone's too busy watching freakin American Idol or whatever to care that they're being sold down the river into virtual enslavement.