BF2 vs BF3

**Toker** · 11-21-11, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Madmax (Grape)

I know you were being facetious, but I agree with this. The more skilled player should win, unaffected by how long someone has been playing. The reason unlocks are in the game is because a majority of people need a carrot dangled in front of them so they can feel some sense of accomplishment. Which leads to better sales. The integrity of the game suffers.

More game content = less integrity of the game?

**CivilWars** · 11-21-11, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Madmax (Grape)

I know you were being facetious, but I agree. The more skilled player should win, unaffected by how long someone has been playing. The reason unlocks are in the game is because a majority of people need a carrot dangled in front of them so they can feel some sense of accomplishment. Which leads to better sales. The integrity of the game suffers.

EVERYONE wants a sense of accomplishment, that is why every game has scores and stats. If nobody cared we would treat these games like community sports for kids, and everyone would get a gold star and a win at the end.

**chray00** · 11-21-11, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

How is that any different than buying BF2 years after release and trying to compete on TTP with people who have been playing since day 1? I had to learn all the maps, tricks, and other things that made me a better player. I had a less than 1 kpd for quite some time after I found TTP.

thats the whole point I'm trying to make. New players already have a huge handicap compared to other people who've been playing for years. You shouldn't have to unlock some essential perks for vehicles on top of that

**Madmax (Grape)** · 11-21-11, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

EVERYONE wants a sense of accomplishment, that is why every game has scores and stats. If nobody cared we would treat these games like community sports for kids, and everyone would get a gold star and a win at the end.

The sense of accomplishment can come from winning the map, or having one's squad be the most effective, or personally having the greatest effect on outcome of the battle. Not by things that skew the playing field.

Originally Posted by Toker

More game content = less integrity of the game?

Is that what you got from what I wrote?
The amount of content is fine, just give it to everyone from the start. Make the playing field level.

**deathgodusmc** · 11-21-11, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Toker

The only people bitching are those who haven't really played the game yet... *le sigh*

If you dont want to talk about it then fucking leave. *le go fuck yourself*

**CivilWars** · 11-21-11, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Your missing the point. Its one thing to upgrade to a better tank shell. However that isnt whats going on with the jet. You simply dont get a missile to fire. They could have just as easily made an unlock system for the jet weapons that made sense. Leaving it unarmed is stupid.

Last I checked it is armed, and all of the people that have the unlocks you want were somehow able to use the armaments provided to get the things you want, yet don't have.

**chray00** · 11-21-11, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Toker

BF3 >BC2 by a looooong shot.

Give it a try. You owe it to all your TPG pals.

Opinion man, opinion. I did play BC2 for a whole year before getting bored of it, while BF3....

At least BC2 maps were designed for 24-32 people hahaha

**deathgodusmc** · 11-21-11, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Last I checked it is armed, and all of the people that have the unlocks you want were somehow able to use the armaments provided to get the things you want, yet don't have.

That doesnt mean it isnt stupid. It just means they sat in the thing long enough for it to become a usefull weapon.

**CivilWars** · 11-21-11, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by chray00

thats the whole point I'm trying to make. New players already have a huge handicap compared to other people who've been playing for years. You shouldn't have to unlock some essential perks for vehicles on top of that

1. BF3 hasn't been out for years.
2. Everyone had the same opportunity to start from day one. I am not going to feel sorry for people that don't have things I do, just like I don't feel sorry for myself when other people have perks I don't.
3. Some people will always have advantages over others. If it isn't perks it will be skills, hardware, ping, whatever. People will always bitch about something.
4. If people are too scared to get killed over and over on TPG trying to get the perks they want then there are tons of less skilled servers where they can play to get unlocks, then come play with the big boys.

**Toker** · 11-21-11, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Madmax (Grape)

Is that what you got from what I wrote?
The amount of content is fine, just give it to everyone from the start.

I'm sorry, but this would just plain suck. It is quite fun progressing through game and unlocking items and new shiny shit at the same time. Why not just start MMOs at level 99? Why not start a CS:S round with 16k every time?

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

If you dont want to talk about it then fucking leave. *le go fuck yourself*

LOL you mad. I am talking about it. The difference is that I actually experienced the things we are discussing and you have not. So, there fore your opinion aint worth a whole lot......yet.