Thread: Arbitrary "spawn camp" rule is a little dumb...

on de_dust2 it is anyway...

The map is a circle, in essence. Putting a skilled sniper on high-ground (T spawn) where he can cover the center and one side of the circle from flanking the other is nothing more than good strategy.

Tonight an admin got AWP'd by a T and the T got slayed for "camping" when he wasn't doin anything but covering our path to bombsite B from a long-A flank...

For a server so up on "Team Play" the "rules" seem to arbitrarily restrict it...

Im not a good sniper so this isnt about my kills... just my opinion on a shady arbitrary rule.

On Assault, as CT's.... sure, CT's spawn camping is lame...

on a circular map like dust2, its good strategy, like it or not.

my 2 cents.


**EDIR** If you are just reading this now and want to flame me, resist the temptation... i understand the rule now and its enforcement. I get it... I was a douchebag, lol.

Also, it was never about the admin... That was dumb of me to even include that. Thanks, peace.

depends on what your team is doing.

leaving players in an area of the map that provides no advantage outside of the first 10 seconds of the round seems like a dumb strategy. If your team is at A, planting the bomb, you should be at A, or securing the long A doors, short A stairs, or the CT spawn. the T spawn is hardly a tactically valueable area, and not even remotely defensible, since you are exposed from 3 directions (A, B, and middle rushes).

If your team was at B, planting the bomb, then you should be at B, holding the doors and windows, in the tunnels protecting the bombers exit, or MAYBE in the middle, increasing resistance against the CT's coming from the CT spawn and short A balcony.

Again.....being in the T spawn doesn't do much to benefit the team.

It does, however, tend to benefit solo players and stat packers who pick up trash off inattentive CT's running around like idiots.

Killing idiots is one thing.....they're idiots for not being more careful. However, you were most likely slayed becuase your team was losing, and required your help. you being in the spawn, especially with as much money as you must have accumulated to buy an awp, would have been a good assett in the bombsite, protecting the flanks of the rush, etc.

yes, dust2 is a circular map.....but the spawns are well outside of the main chokepoints of the map.

if your argument is strategy.....camping the t spawn on dust 2 is hardly a winning strategy, unless it's against dumb people.

Originally Posted by Consultant

For a server so up on "Team Play" the "rules" seem to arbitrarily restrict it...

if you had been with your TEAM, there wouldn't have been an issue.

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

Originally Posted by Consultant

For a server so up on "Team Play" the "rules" seem to arbitrarily restrict it...

if you had been with your TEAM, there wouldn't have been an issue.

ok, there you're just guessing what happened.

I was a T and my teammate got slayed for sniping from the spawn. I was with the "team" planting and blowing up bombsite B and thanks to the sniper, the center-rush CT regroup was slowed enough to let the bomb blow. We won. But it was "against the rules" so the sniper got slayed (read: he killed an admin who was CT)

an observation...

w/e... I was just givin some opinion. no need to get defensive. Krazy, disagreeing with me is no reason to not like me... its call civil discourse. I was raggin the admin 'cause on the very next map (aztec) the T's camped their end for like 40 minutes and nothing was done... selective enforcement.

anyway, this is still the best server, regardless of the fact that somebody doesnt like little old me...

No, I dont know who the admins are, I know some, not all...

<3

oh yeah sj, its got nothing to do with me... like I said, i am a marginal sniper and i'm always the one out front with an MP5 (Still cant get the AK to work right, lol)

I slept on it and I agree, spawn camping dust2 is far from being tactically brilliant and I understand the points you've all made.

Just to reiterate, Im not, nor was I wishing to personally camp dust2 T spawn... I just observed what I thought to be a silly rule and decided to discuss it.

krazy, you cant stop me from loving you... you can only hope to contain my affections.

and to sjt & bigdog.... *swoon*