Thread: GG admin

Originally Posted by Scase

Microphones simply elevate the game play of all involved. It's easier to have coordinated attacks, help, etc when people can effectively communicate quickly. There is absolutely no downside to having a mic (aside from mic spam but thats a different topic) but there are tons of negatives associated with no mic usage.

I play on/with a great team, while we could play without mics it's simply handicapping ourselves for no reason.

As for the boomer scenario while yes you can somewhat see with bile on you that's usually only from close distances, mind you I've seen idiots boomed right next to a teammate getting ripped to shit and stand idly by. If you somehow get pulled a distance away then pounced it's VERY difficult for your boomed teammates to see you. But it's incredibly easy for said teammate to say "Hey I'm off to your right/left/etc" and guide you close enough to be able to see them.

I'd argue that you're wrong when you say that it elevates the game play of all involved. Sure it elevates the teamplay, NO doubt about it! But having a mic can also be a false security and it is for a lot of people in public games. I've seen more than enough people get in trouble over and over only to scream save me everytime and eventually rage quit.

I play with a serious team aswell and I'll be honest to say that we use microphones all of us at a high rate, but we've learned through battles that even though you have a microphone and can inform your teammates of you getting pounced/smoked - it'll never make up for good gameplay.

As for the boomer scenario I can't see much myself, but I do two things myself both equally important. 1: I kill common infected, kill and avoid damage (melee). 2: I listen to sounds. when I hear a hunter I turn myself towards the sound and I look for the nearest nametag. You will see that if the guy is huntered the nametag will be lower than usual.

Basically I say two things: If you get pounced/smoked and take great damage then you're usually not in position. If you have trouble helping people who are pounced/smoked then you need to listen to sounds and step up your game

Originally Posted by sapien52

What if they lost their hands in unfortunate accident, and couldn't shoot the zombies?

People in this thread should be ashamed for kicking players! Where is the love in that?

Sorry, but, I'm not ashamed. Why should I be? Oh, wait. I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN MYSELF?!

Originally Posted by Nilsson

I'd argue that you're wrong when you say that it elevates the game play of all involved. Sure it elevates the teamplay, NO doubt about it! But having a mic can also be a false security and it is for a lot of people in public games. I've seen more than enough people get in trouble over and over only to scream save me everytime and eventually rage quit.

I play with a serious team aswell and I'll be honest to say that we use microphones all of us at a high rate, but we've learned through battles that even though you have a microphone and can inform your teammates of you getting pounced/smoked - it'll never make up for good gameplay.

As for the boomer scenario I can't see much myself, but I do two things myself both equally important. 1: I kill common infected, kill and avoid damage (melee). 2: I listen to sounds. when I hear a hunter I turn myself towards the sound and I look for the nearest nametag. You will see that if the guy is huntered the nametag will be lower than usual.

Basically I say two things: If you get pounced/smoked and take great damage then you're usually not in position. If you have trouble helping people who are pounced/smoked then you need to listen to sounds and step up your game

And what do you do when he's not in your direct line of sight? For example - NM1 - medkit room near the end of the level, three people step out of the room and get boomed on and the hunter pounces one of them while he's still in the room. You can't see him. Add onto the piles of zombies around you and the boomer vile, you're going to be able to tell right away when he gets pounced?

Sure, maybe after a bit you'll notice he's "Lower elevated" but after how many seconds? How quick are you going to notice that someone in that situation got pounced? What if he's behind you? There are countless other situations where you just could not tell he was pounced unless he specifically told you.

Or better yet - what if YOU'RE pounced. and they're boomed on. Let me tell you, not everyone is able to tell the difference between of that lower elevation. Do you really trust that people are going to be able to make that tiny distinction?

And most people who play on xbox, don't have their sound high enough as to hear the hunter pounce over the blaring music of the boomer vomit.

How about another scenario - two equalled teams, one with mics, the other without. Who would you bet to win that game?

We've established throughout this entire thread that yes, you can still win a game with a mic. No one is arguing otherwise. What we ARE arguing that USUALLY, mics boost team work, cooperation and usually the effectiveness of the team. Yes, if you're a shitty player - you'll just be a shitty player with a mic. But it's a lotttt easier to babysit a bad player with a mic than one without.

The average pubber is bad enough as it is. But add to the fact that they can't even communicate with the team? It makes him 5x the liability than one with a mic. How are we to know that this person without a mic is actually an amazing player? We don't know. But atleast if they have a mic and suck, we could atleast give him help, tips, strategize and etc.

I don't think we're wrong not wanting to take the risk that this person is horrible at the game and cannot talk.

At Redemption:
The scenario with NM1 - I would notice him right away. Maybe it does help that I have my music disabled and therefore cannot hear the boomer music. Sounds are important to me - not music.

If I'm getting pounced and are not saved either I'm playing with poor players who cannot hear/see when a guy is pounced (bad player) or I'm malplaced. Most of the times I'm malplaced.
Surely you can scream all you want, but a bad player is a bad player. You can guide him all you want, but that doesn't make sure that he'll find you.

I personally think that my team can beat most teams without the use of microphones, because a lot of things isn't required to be said. Requiring microphones of your teammates is the easy solution, but not the only. Improving by endlessly saving their asses and being close to your teammates is by far better improvement when you're pubbing.

So all in all. We agree that microphones allows better communication (duh), but we disagree on that it's necessary.

Of yeah you can still give a player help, tips and strategy if you have a microphone and he has headphones. At least on the computer

Well I have no doubt you could beat most teams without a mic. Most teams out there are horrible. Pubbing is a joke in this game, and If I knew the person was competent or lets say was up to your skill level, I personally wouldn't give a shit if he had a mic.

But as is - I don't, so I just kick the no miccers to be safe. The only thing I hate more than playing against a shitty team is having a shitty team mate. So I just go through the extra precautions is all.

So all in all. We agree that microphones allows better communication (duh), but we disagree on that it's necessary.

Yes and no, when I play without my friends I play without a mic. I'm not taking the game seriously enough, but if I get booted - I don't get mad about it, nor surprised.

But when I have a serious game, and I want to attempt to get a game with both teams aren't stacked/one sided, yearh I do believe it to be a necessity.

Agree to disagree I supposeee