Defending against T rush....Italy.

**JPforFree** · 05-10-06, 03:12 PM

Ok, since the forum as of yet is not going to be added, I have a strategic and then tactical question for CS_Italy.

We all know about the T rushes on this map. What I would like to discuss is the best way to counteract the T rush. For instance lets say the T's rush the right side jumping and flashing off the bridge. Whats the best way to counter, without sitting back? So T's rush and the CT's rush left right at them.. If possible I would like specifics as to where to throw a flash etc..

**...bigdog...** · 05-10-06, 03:40 PM

you can't stop me coming off that bridge. Your only options are to sit there blinded, try and flash us back, or to never leave your spawn in the first place, and hope to pick us off as we come down the ramp.

but due to timing and cover.....it's unlikely the CT's will hold their spawn from a T-"jump off" rush.

For me.....I know that if it's done correctly, it's unstoppable. 2 flashes, maybe 3, and a single smoke nade puts me in the CT spawn in 15 seconds.

**BigHub** · 05-10-06, 03:54 PM

i have stopped it plenty of times..... :twisted:

I wait in the hall for the first T flash to go off, then i toss a flash infront of them....wait 2 or 3 seconds throw another and wait in the side door.... then throw a nade and around that time.... they should be pullin around the corner, blast em in the face.

It probably won't "stop" them, but it will definitely slow them down alot and possibly take out alot of em. Especially if you have more than 2 people there.

**...bigdog...** · 05-10-06, 04:09 PM

yeah......you go ahead and try that. Let's see how that works out for you.

And by hub's own admission......it won't "stop" us....it will just slow us down.

**JPforFree** · 05-10-06, 04:47 PM

So the problem with Italy for the CT's, is when facing 2 good T rushers they can close off the left side of the map and the other can close off the market which results in a CT bloodbath..

So whats the best way to counter this, when facing competent T rushers?

Is the T market rush foolproof? I know if I am not first to the market I will usually run directly into a T flash, becuase the first CT didnt flash the T's first.

**yungryder** · 05-10-06, 04:58 PM

Everyone hide in Apts.................................

**geeseven** · 05-10-06, 05:05 PM

I gotta agree that is hard to stop the "jump off" T rush. well timed CT flashes can help in slowing down and maybe getting one or two Ts but almost impossiable to stop. Maybe with a bad T flash, maybe.

Rushing apartments and jumping off behind them can sometimes get one or two Ts camping CT spawn. Or camping apartmetns/market to trap Ts that don't camp spawn can work too. But all that doesn't stop the "jump off" T rush.

**...bigdog...** · 05-10-06, 05:07 PM

market is the safest rush, assuming the CT's can spread out.

the market at least has cover and areas to set up a crossfire.

The apartments work too.....but then you're trapped by the awpers.

market rush, smoke long hall, flash, flash, door....hostages......wait.....exit to spawn.

whole thing should take less than 60 seconds.

**greymata** · 05-10-06, 07:38 PM

:O

**JPforFree** · 05-10-06, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by ...bigdog...

market is the safest rush, assuming the CT's can spread out.

the market at least has cover and areas to set up a crossfire.

The apartments work too.....but then you're trapped by the awpers.

market rush, smoke long hall, flash, flash, door....hostages......wait.....exit to spawn.

whole thing should take less than 60 seconds.

THis assumes that a competent CT makes it to market first..