Thread: Disappointing

Originally Posted by dex71

It's just a little demoralizing when all of the good pilots are on the same team, and the other one can't get a break from the bombs and choppers........

Different game, same argument. (2) has heard this before.

so true dex, and that definitely happens. i've been on both sides of that coin and it can suck.

but not nearly as often as roughly equally skilled teams, one of which has players that continue to make simple mistakes that cost them the game.

think of it like an nfl footlball game. any team can win on any given sunday. both teams have multi-million dollar qb's, recievers that run sub 4.4's, linebackers that can stop a moving car.

but the perennial losers are the guys that can't seem to get it right, have poor gameplans, use the wrong weapons, buy at the wrong times, can't use their nades right or not at all, and/or play selfishly for their own gain. while the other team either executes perfectly, or executes even marginally well enough to make the difference each round, 15 times in a row (or however many to win).

that's not skill, that's either being outplayed, or just being stupid.

Originally Posted by GReYVee

Yeah, actively join the team that needs the help or player.

A good example. You come into the game mid map. It's 0 to 7. CT's winning. The CTs have 8 players, the T's 9. If you auto-join it's going to put you on CT to make it 9v9. But the T's are obviously needing more help. Go T. now its 8-10. 2 up with 0 wins. Maybe that's enough to get things going.

Players must also realize when they join the server and there is a situation like this: Inferno, 7-4 Ts are winning and the teams are even. You join the game and look at the scoreboard(Which is what you should always do before joining a team) and you notice its 7-4, but teams are even and the CTS are about to win this next round by a landfall. Most players will be like "oh i'm going to join the losing team, CT" This IMO is wrong. You will be joining the side with the better advantage on this map, the score is now 7-5, and CTs are one player up on the Ts. The match ends 15-7. I've seen it happen so many times.

Just because one side is losing when you join the server does not automatically mean that this is the losing side. Take a second to figure out which team is going to actually need your help. CT side inferno already has the camping site advantage so you should not stack CT unless the score is a blowout.

I personally never pick auto select. I think it just gives a bull shit excuse for players who auto select onto the easy side/winning side of a map. I think we are all smart enough to make our own decisions and not have to press 5. Everyone should know how TPG works and what rules we enforce dealing with teams. Players should only choose auto-select at the beginning of the map...imo.

oooorrrrrr you as a player should move over. Admins arn't the only ones that can move people, they're more than capable of moving themselves. It's way more disappointing when players don't take the initiative to move and help the losing side.

My response is similar to this. Adretheon hit it on the head.

There are many players[regulars included] that will not take the initiative.

Taking the initiative could be calling[I was on de_inferno w/ a few regulars, not gonna name them, and none of them were calling, and they been playing here way longer than I have.
Taking the initiative can also be to switch sides and help the other side out, like adretheon said. The admins aren't here to hold your hand. I bitch people out all the time when they don't follow the call or bitch about 'why should i follow the call' i remember I raged on this kid in de_port infront of everyone the split-second he bitched about it. No admin needed to say anything. Cause regulars on the server should set the standards of play and not just point fingers.

Where this 15-3 thing comes to a cross-road is this - de_nuke, 15-3 T's winning. Whats wrong with that? One, its CT sided to hell, Two, Teamplay occured and the opposing team couldn't adapt QUICKER than our team. I don't see why anyone should be swapped over. The CT side filled up first before T side, so I think the CT players should take what they wanted, an ass beating.
When its the OBJECTIVE side [changes depending on map] stomping the OPPOSING side, I don't see why anyone should be swapped. But if its vice versa and the objective side isn't gettin calls made etc than by all means.

Of course every situation is different and can only be evaluated at that exact moment for best clarity, but all in all, it comes down to regulars stepping up, and showing everyone else what its all about. How do you expect new players to know how we roll when you don't wanna make the calls/set the example.


*Auto selecting at beginning of map is a good way to cause issues. "Why you playing the easy side?" - "I auto selected!" when the player that autoselected to the easy side could have easily just chose the harder side. Auto-select is over-rated. A player knows which side he needs to play on, which is the objective side, or the side opposing a team full of stacked-skill players.