Thread: Faith in humanity levels dropping

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Who said anything about the vast majority feel the word is ok to use? I sure as hell didnt. In fact i said in certain areas between certain people. Pretty sure that isnt saying the majority.

Even still, your assessment that it's ok or acceptable in certain areas is a long shot at best. Have you ever seen it in your area or a certain area, where it was ok? I mean, really seen with your own eyes?

I knew a guy in my town, who was pretty good friends with a black guy. They hung out a lot together, went to parties etc. I heard one day that the white had used the word nigger around him in a casual way. The black guy beat the fuck out of the guy, without even thinking twice. The black even told him afterwards, that there a some things that you just don't say...and that's one of them.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

We should be happy that the word itself is migrating to a place where it can used in a sense that isnt insulting.

Happy? That's just....actually, I don't even know what to say to that.

All that tells me is we have some people around here that do discriminate and hate just to hate.

We hate just to hate? Yeah, hating the use of that word is such a bad thing.

By that logic, it's bad to hate car wrecks too.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

They already knew what i was talking about on being ignorant to how people grew up but it takes away from their arguement that things are what they are. You dont have to like it and you can be ignorant of how it is that way but the last thing someone should do is call someone ignorant just because someone is diffierent or grew up differenty then they did.

Wait - now your going to claim, argumentatively, some kind of victimhood and that you're just misunderstood? No. That's not what happened at all. And I think that people understood what you were saying. They simply disagreed. Don't claim, now, that since we've disagreed that your "just misunderstood."

And you're oversimplifying, by a large degree, the concept of ignorance that we're discussing. Your very statement shows that you're not understanding the meaning behind the word. Of course we're not calling someone ignorant just because they are different or grew up differently. You are different from me and grew up differently, I am not calling you ignorant. But, for people who have grown up in the US (regardless of where) in the last 50 years and participated in the legally mandated minimum of education cannot possibly be unaware of the word, its uses and meanings and the history attached to it. It is impossible except perhaps for a very small minority of people who were home schooled by people unqualified to do to so. That fact precludes them from using the excuse of "Well I didn't know that it could be insulting, I have just always used it." The very fact that you are attempting to argue that point is silly.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

All that tells me is we have some people around here that do discriminate and hate just to hate. Your no better then those people that grew up differently then you did. The only difference is your morals and ethics to theirs. Thats not to mention the level of intolerance going on toward blacks by some. They are the ones that use the word most frequently after all.

And this is a true gem. Now that you're basically unable to continue the charade of "Well they can use it and there's nothing wrong with it at all as long as the person using it doesn't mean to offer offense or has no idea that the word is offensive to many" you're going to try and flip the onus of condemnation on the usage of the word and claim that the people that dislike the usage of the word and see that it serves no valuable or valid purpose are, themselves, the true haters and discriminators.

The fuck? ? ? ?

Then you double down and play the race card and say "...the people speaking out against usage of the word are intolerant towards blacks..." Jesse Jackson would be proud.

LOL. How do you keep any of these things straight? That is logically fallacious.

So Death, is using the work "kike," "wop" or "wetback" acceptable and commendable too? You support the usage of those words and terms on the basis that people might just have grown up using them in their daily vernacular? That's got to be one of the worst arguments around supporting something I've ever heard.
Some cities and towns all across this country used to hang blacks from trees for no other reason than they were black. Since they have always done that or it's their culture or it's how they grew up I can see how it's totally fine for them. And any how disagree with that and find fault with them are haters and discriminators. That's your argument in a nutshell. Whew....it's a strange bit of grey matter you inhabit there DG. But you're welcome to it.

Al, how many Hispanics have you heard call each other wetback? Now how many African Americans have you heard use the N word? So are you saying that a large percentage of African Americans are ignorant of their own heritage/culture?


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Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

No...we throw the word ignorant around in here like if being ignorant is the same as stupid...ignorant just means "not knowing" ...we are all ignorant in millions of ways...what these people are...the people that are using this word to this day....whether it´s black or white or brown or yellow or red....these people are IDIOTS or just plain racist...so a black guy that constantly uses this word in reference to another black guy...is just plain stupid...he is not ignorant...he is an imbecile.

But that is not what has been stated, repeatedly, in this very topic. I have read that anyone that uses it is racist, or is ignorant, or both. Just trying to clarify if that is indeed what is being claimed.


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That is why my post starts with "Al".


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