Tax Credit deal financed on the backs of mortgage holders

**dex71** · 02-08-12, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

Need to go farther then that to be more then just a band-aid. For one, even with proportional, you would still have the two parties ruling the day because no-one will know who Independent Jim is. The easiest fix would be to allow third parties to participate at debates (especially the national ones, some states may allow them, not sure). Speaking of which, does anyone know if they even have debates for congressional races? I've never heard one thing about them before O_O. It still isn't a good fix, as there will be more idiots watching American Idol then paying any attention to important issues (because you know, shit like the Kardishians are important!)

You make a decent point about the Independents having a tough time breaking into the mainstream, but I don't think that including them in the debates would do any good. Most likely, it would take time away from the people who actually have a chance to win, and those are the people we need to hear from most.

Funny you mention American Idol.....because that is what American politics have tuned into.

**Alundil** · 02-08-12, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by ~BigTymer~

You just now figured out how the democrats roll?

Oh lawd.......because they are only ones.........

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**Red_Lizard2** · 02-08-12, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

Most likely, it would take time away from the people who actually have a chance to win, and those are the people we need to hear from most.

Why couldn't they win? The thought that only 2 parties can win elections is what helps the two parties continue to win elections (i.e. the "wasted vote" thing is saying a person should only vote R or D, yet if people voted 3rd party, then it wouldn't be a wasted vote). Speaking of which, how did Perot get a decent chunk of votes the year he ran? I only know bits and pieces about it, but it happened when I was too young to care about politics, so did he have a ton of money or something else?

**DJ Ms. White** · 02-09-12, 01:16 AM

Ton of money

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**enf** · 02-09-12, 01:50 AM

Im about a month away from closing on my first house right now and I will admit I didnt read all of this. I did read the first post though and the gist of it looks like people are pissed that they have to spend $9000 more over 30 years ($25 extra a month) instead of $50/month. Am I missing something or wrong in my numbers?

Seems like the norm now is just bitchbitchbitch instead of looking at the big picture...