Thread: Person who exposed fradulent CMOH winner fired - BS

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

How about sending me twenty bucks instead. That at least would put a smile on my face.

I could just head down to the OBT and let you earn it...j/k.

First thing first. Let's not change the scope of the discussion to what you'd like it to be; That of some minor edge case of harm based solely around MOH awards. That is not the discussion. Nor was it why I posted the topic. You continue to run back to that though.

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

An incredibly well written and empty response to my question asking where danger lies in someone claiming to have won the MOH.

If that were the only false claim you might have something there. But it wasn't. And there are many, MANY, employers who do offer preferential treatment to military members. That's not DG crank. The potential for harm is that someone falsely claiming service and the accoutrements, thereof, will be abusing the systems that reward said service. In that scenario, the danger and the harm is the potential abuse made possible by the false claim of service and the public impression of it. As has been mentioned, employment perks at the very least, the possibility that he was elected to office on those same false pretenses. In both of those cases, who is harmed? An employment candidate in competition with him? Perhaps. A political candidate running against him? Perhaps. In fact, both of those are entirely plausible.

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

While we both can agree that it's a clear case of douchebaggery, there's no potential harm to life or limb here. Unless you care to offer a plausible scenario.

See above.

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

You can make false claims on any resume and it's not illegal. That's the issue here DG, not whether it's wrong to do but whether it should be a legally punishable offense. People get fired all the time for this but they don't go to jail.

That's, actually, not the issue of this post. Nor was it the issue of the article, in main point. And furthermore, SCOTUS agrees that while lying about yourself is deplorable it's not illegal (and sometimes necessary) but that lying about honors received is a different matter. I look forward to June/July, hopefully, when the decision is announced.

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

25 guests viewing? Now that's funny.
I've never understood why people log in and out to view the forums.

Don't flatter yourself. More than a few of those are spiders.

I apologize if I struck a nerve Al but the point I was trying to make is that there is no real harm real or imagined here that warrants that it become a legally punishable offense. You made that claim, I didn't.

As for using false accomplishments to land a job, when it happens and they get found out, they get fired. If a business decides that it wants to offer preferential treatment to former military members, then the onus is on that business to make sure the applicants information is truthful. There is no requirement for a business to offer this preferential treatment, they choose to do it. What I'm saying is that this isn't a case of an unfair system being foisted on the poor businesses of America. It's their choice to engage in this practice and it's their responsability to vet all applicants properly, especially someone who would claim to be a CMOH recipient. If I was a business owner, I would insist to see the feaking medal and any paperwork associated with it.


As for the spiders, do you really think I'm trying to flatter myself? Don't be petty, you're better than that.

I think it's disgusting when anyone who hasn't served acts as though they did. The one that says he is a MOH recipient is no worse than those who say they served in (insert War Name). They're all douchebags...