Thread: Santorum must not be elected

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Might have something to do with muslims dont go door to door recruiting. Come to think of it i have never seen a homeless person with a sign saying "Need work and Allah praise you".

Yeah, I wonder how they spread the good word in new territory; ultimately, I wonder what happens to those who do not catch the good words once numbers grow heavy and a society seems to have caught the drift...?

You cannot, in some Muslim societies practice other religions. In fact, in some Muslim societies, if you do not practice the local standard, your situation may become bleak and you could be destroyed.

Last count of Iranian Jews was 100,000...8 years ago. I do not know how many of them still live in Iran, but a recent customer of ours (Iranian Jew) told me that there has been a mass exodus of his fellow Iranian Jews from Iran. Something about being slaughtered they have issues with.

I do agree that it is annoying to have door-to-door crusaders or guys in ties riding bicycles in traffic. I also do not enjoy telemarketing of any kind.

Bums asking for change and displaying a "god bless" type cardboard sign at every other intersection sucks a bit too. What is a society to do? I heard that China puts them to work in exchange for sustenance and shelter. BTW, don't we owe China some money?

Hitch

Maybe it also has something to do with christians trying to shove their ideology down the throats of the government and people who don't believe in the christian gods? Why yes, yes it does. Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. in America operate no where near as prevalently as christians. How's the meme go?

or you know, up women's vaginas or into our pledge of allegiance or onto our currency into our government institutions or into our laws, etc.

Originally Posted by Hitch

Keep hatin' on dem Jeezus freaks and that might pave the way for Islam! <---is this possible?

Do we have a growing population of people who appear to have little to no regard for Christianity, yet, those same anti-Jeezus peeps do not seem to be as outspoken about the practice of other religions? Strange.

Why beat on Jesus fuhreeks and not Mohammad drones? I mean it looks like a great divide and conquer strategy if you look under the covers a few layers.

Just wondering, since this Porn/Pron thread got derailed into an open-call forum discussion.

Hitch

Living under a fascist Christian populace/government would not be much different then a Muslim one. What is more likely is that instead of strengthening our already secular republic, the Jeezuz phreaks, as you put it, would use that as an excuse to Christianize government using fear of Muslims as a propellent. You can get more then just whiffs of this already in some of the legislation from the bible belt. Using fear of 'godless' communism is how we ended up with in god we trust on our money in the 50's. Cool fact is that it was the same Catholic sect of monks, who were Hitlers lap dogs, that went before Congress and said wouldn't it be nice if our money showed how we differ from the Godless red army? That is a pretty close paraphrase.

I am outspoken about Islam, but I have not seen one Muslim attempt to attain office on a ticket of Koranic infallibility. Your right on one thing though, the left as a whole is in denial about how serious a threat Muslim opinion is. A cartoon gets published and Danish embassies are vandalized all over the world. Here in the US newsstands refused to carry any magazine that shows the cartoons, no major network showed you those cartoons, the first amendment took a sucker punch and it was the left who did most of the hand washing about, "O its only one or two" or "not all Muslims are this way" or "Well don't make them angry and we will be ok!", spineless drivel. The left, if its only good for one thing, should be the defense of constitution from charges that we would be safer if we did not have this or that freedom.

Also the threads title is about not electing Santorum with the opening remark about porn, my post was true to the title.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Maybe it also has something to do with christians trying to shove their ideology down the throats of the government and people who don't believe in the christian gods? Why yes, yes it does. Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. in America operate no where near as prevalently as christians. How's the meme go?

or you know, up women's vaginas or into our pledge of allegiance or onto our currency into our government institutions or into our laws, etc.

Wow! You would have issues in a theocracy too. I am not a bible-thumper, first of all. I was raised at the alter and did all the confirmations and what-not. I never got touched by a Priest or anything remotely close to that either.

Not all of society can be as wise as some of you atheist/agnostic folks. Some low-brow peeps need a common fear (God or a King, Pharaoh etc...), something to respect outside of their home. Early Philosophers, in many regards, may have laid out that which later became biblical text. Man destroys himself through various drives. Power is a natural goal for many.

As I recall, most Christian faiths are relatively passive, now. They may say things such as "you will burn in hell if...", however, of late, I do not recall wide-spread recurrence of events that resemble those which Monty Python made great fun of. The Christians apparently GOT IT, somehow. In the process of Crusades and Inquisitions, somebody pulled their head out and realized the bullshit going on was not going to readily stop. It then took religious leaders from the various "tribes" to manage peace wherever possible. Then they mingled. Then they passed laws to enforce the rules that had been set forth that they mostly agreed upon. Somehow man survived using God as a common excuse/denominator.

I tell door-knockers to check into some sin, that way they will have a better understanding how the other half lives. I do not wish them bad luck in their pursuit of recruiting people to what they believe is "salvation". When I was in college, they got on my nerves because I was immature and did not know how to handle them (not to say that my rhetoric is any bit grown-up now).

Unfortunately, I have to believe that religion is to blame and thank for most conflict and resolution. We are probably never going to see a day where no temple, of any kind, exists. At least, however, let's try to make sure that no one temple becomes dominant and is able to destroy all others and rule by its theocracy. This, I believe has been attempted at some point or other in the history of our world.

Intellect cannot force itself onto the less cerebrally endowed; a good thing too. Believe it or not, some folks just aren't as bright as others. Hey, guess what? Some of the happiest people are too low in IQ to give a damn.

If everybody were as smart as you agnostics and atheists, nobody would do low-end labor, as it would be beneath everybody. All the wise great ones would have nobody to work their businesses, farms and sanitation departments.

With all know-it-alls, we would have a perfect, balanced, harmonic society. Yeah, right.

Hitch

Originally Posted by Fovezer

What do Iranian Jews have to do with Christians in the United States? Muslims are the minority here and aren't the ones trying to shove their religion down our throats and trying to pass laws discriminate against others. As soon as that happens, I'll start criticizing them more. But right now, the anti-equal rights, anti-science, anti-choice, anti-women jackasses are all Christians. Oh, and all the door-to-door proselytizers and "Jesus hates you" jackasses are also Christians.

I see your angry point, and I sense your fear of a prudish society. I do not think it would happen in a hard Right turn. There are too many non-radical and non-believers (in Judicial Branch, House and Senate)for Santorum to get too many bibles printed and into the schools. Relax. If Santy boy is your next president, he will be way to busy spitting his campaign toes out of his mouth under the HELLFIRE SCRUTINY that the press will actually slam up his ass. OB got a free pass as do many Libs. The Republicans will continue to be the shit catchers no matter what. They cannot sneak out and get away with much.

I do not see you being forced to Church on Sunday. You could be forced to buy health care when you reach a certain age, however.

Hitch

Know it alls, eh? The hallmarks of an non-believer is skepticism and a desire to understand that which is unknown. It is the believers who say they have all the answers given to them by their gods.

And christians as passive? Yeah, the sanctioning of dictators in South America, of Hitler, of the atrocities of the modern Russian government? The persecution of blacks, latinos, immigrants, homosexuals, and women?

Oh oh, and the witch trials in America. The approval of Mugabe. The disapproval of condoms and contraceptives, which has led to the rampant pandemic of STDs (including AIDs) in Africa.

I can go on...but I think I've made my point.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Know it alls, eh? The hallmarks of an non-believer is skepticism and a desire to understand that which is unknown. It is the believers who say they have all the answers given to them by their gods.

And christians as passive? Yeah, the sanctioning of dictators in South America, of Hitler, of the atrocities of the modern Russian government? The persecution of blacks, latinos, immigrants, homosexuals, and women?

Oh oh, and the witch trials in America. The approval of Mugabe. The disapproval of condoms and contraceptives, which has led to the rampant pandemic of STDs (including AIDs) in Africa.

I can go on...but I think I've made my point.

You forgot the LRA (there is also the National Liberation Front of Tripura, and Army of God as Christian terrorist groups, with AOG being in the US).

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Know it alls, eh? The hallmarks of an non-believer is skepticism and a desire to understand that which is unknown. It is the believers who say they have all the answers given to them by their gods.

And christians as passive? Yeah, the sanctioning of dictators in South America, of Hitler, of the atrocities of the modern Russian government? The persecution of blacks, latinos, immigrants, homosexuals, and women?

Oh oh, and the witch trials in America. The approval of Mugabe. The disapproval of condoms and contraceptives, which has led to the rampant pandemic of STDs (including AIDs) in Africa.

I can go on...but I think I've made my point.

Who stopped these bad people? As I stated, both conflict and resolution seems to belong to those bearing a cross.

I did profess nor hopefully infer that the Christian whacko right is the ultimate best solution. I wish we could name a close to Ron Paul type candidate who doesn't spend half of his campaign telling us how good with God/Jesus he is, really. In the process, we do not need to pave the way for allowing people with religious specifics to get special accommodations in order for them to practice their religion (under another religions school roof) while Christians are told told to STFU and MYOFB. For reference, look up some rules tossed at Catholics so Muslim students could have prayer, more than once a day, while in a Catholic private school.

Seems balanced enough.

Hitch