Thread: Governor signs bill to allow citizens to resist police

Originally Posted by MaFioSo

Also I don't want people to think the video is relevant to where I stand on the issue. I was basically using it has a hypothetical to see how the situation might differ if the law was in place. Obviously there are bad apples in every group of people and the majority of police officers are not like this, I'm sure we could also find tons of stories and videos of cops doing the right thing and being heroic, so basically the video "itself" does not strengthen or weaken either argument imo. Reading the article now....

Oh i agree completely. My point was someone is confusing suspect behavior for a person walking down the street.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Rule #1 of cops in the home of the KKK, a black man walking free is suspicious enough.

That goes both ways but both are irrelivant to the discussion.

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

If you live through the arrest in the first place. With all the Roving Death squads who knows if you even make it to jail.
Escape from: Oppression in the Midwest: Roving Electroshock DEATH squads

Oy vey - please smoken - post something with either less tinfoil or more cowbell ffs.

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Yeah, that sounds nice, but the Americans no longer trust that they'll get justice in the courts, or that they'll get a proper investigation against the police. Also, if you're afraid for your life, then you're not going to wait to sue. This guy,
Tased in His Own House: California Man Sues Police After Disturbing Visit - ABC News
was afraid for his life, and rightly so. He shouldn't have to sit there and take abuse, hoping that he'll survive to sue later.

I agree with your first point in that Americans are increasingly less trusting of the court system here. However the story you posted doesn't paint a clear pro/con proposition in terms of this discussion as there are valid reasons why the "victim" was tased. Disagreeing with the use of the Taser does not make this a "police overreach" imo. Without sidetracking too much, it would appear that the man in this case (unless new details emerged since then as this was a 2010 story) was drunk and obviously in distress and belligerent. One must assume that the police were called by his spouse who you can hear in the video. I also heard several calm requests for him to calm down and come with them peacefully. I believe that the police have been charged with, in a public safety fashion, of taking into custody and transporting to a medical facility those people who appear to be a danger to themselves or others. If the claims in the article are correct the man was depressed, drunk and belligerent and claimed "...would shoot himself if he had a gun." How many times in the last few years have we read stories, and discussed at length, about people in that state who go on to wipe out entire families before turning the gun on themselves? More than a few. So with that said, if the police stopped him from going any further down the dead end of drunk and depressed I think that's a good thing taser or not.