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    Quote Originally Posted by AetheLove View Post
    I though part of Hannibal's #2 was "without refuelling." Nicaragua to Iran is something like 8000 to 9000 miles - assuming great circle, which would take you over places you might not want to go.


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    Yeah he did say that i forgot that. However i think we have c-5's close enough to iran to still get it done and have had them there a long time. Whoever said the statement is still accurate. That is unless he said from the continental US. Then we have a problem.

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    Let me clarify,

    According to testimony given before congress,

    (1) You can fuel up a C-5 and fly it off an AFB without filing a flight plan or getting authorization and no one will try to stop you.

    (2) You can fly a C-5 directly from Nicaragua to Iran without refueling anywhere so long as you fly a great circle route.

    (1) and (2) were necessary to explain how a the Colonel was able to fly heavy weapons from Nicaragua to Iran in order to sell the weapons to the Iranians and create a slush fund for some right wing rebels in Nicaragua, without anyone other than him being responsible and explain how no records of the flights were kept.

    I think you will agree that both of these things are probably not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hannibal View Post
    Let me clarify,

    According to testimony given before congress,

    (1) You can fuel up a C-5 and fly it off an AFB without filing a flight plan or getting authorization and no one will try to stop you.

    (2) You can fly a C-5 directly from Nicaragua to Iran without refueling anywhere so long as you fly a great circle route.

    (1) and (2) were necessary to explain how a the Colonel was able to fly heavy weapons from Nicaragua to Iran in order to sell the weapons to the Iranians and create a slush fund for some right wing rebels in Nicaragua, without anyone other than him being responsible and explain how no records of the flights were kept.

    I think you will agree that both of these things are probably not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hannibal View Post
    Let me clarify,

    According to testimony given before congress,

    (1) You can fuel up a C-5 and fly it off an AFB without filing a flight plan or getting authorization and no one will try to stop you.

    (2) You can fly a C-5 directly from Nicaragua to Iran without refueling anywhere so long as you fly a great circle route.

    (1) and (2) were necessary to explain how a the Colonel was able to fly heavy weapons from Nicaragua to Iran in order to sell the weapons to the Iranians and create a slush fund for some right wing rebels in Nicaragua, without anyone other than him being responsible and explain how no records of the flights were kept.

    I think you will agree that both of these things are probably not possible.

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    I can say if you have the pull the flight plan can go away for certain reasons. I dont think hes gonna have that pull though. The only feasable way i can see this plane making that journey without in flight refuel is if they made it a fuel carrier. Other then that the bitch would drop into the ocean. How i missed the launch site in your post before i have no idea. I damn sure didnt see it. I must skimmed right over it without trying. If i had caught that i wouldnt have said anything but your right its absurd to say it.

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    Politically motivated question, politically motivated answer.

    They are different drugs and effect different parts of the body. They have different entry methods. So you are not comparing apples and apples. Typically heroin and meth are considered "hard" drugs. So do we take into account the likeliness of a person over dosing? Based on concentration and entry method, yes they are probably worse for your health, but you have to quantify a dose and compare them equally. Meth and heroin both have prescription drugs in the same family.

    I have had morphine at the hospital, it was enough to make me feel "high." That same dose taken every day would produce less of the high. I would have to increase the dose to feel the same. Once the dose gets large enough it is very dangerous.

    He had an answer he wanted to hear and she didnt want to give it to him. She needs to learn to answer in a way that says fuck off and not stutter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flame View Post
    Politically motivated question, politically motivated answer.

    They are different drugs and effect different parts of the body. They have different entry methods. So you are not comparing apples and apples. Typically heroin and meth are considered "hard" drugs. So do we take into account the likeliness of a person over dosing? Based on concentration and entry method, yes they are probably worse for your health, but you have to quantify a dose and compare them equally. Meth and heroin both have prescription drugs in the same family.

    I have had morphine at the hospital, it was enough to make me feel "high." That same dose taken every day would produce less of the high. I would have to increase the dose to feel the same. Once the dose gets large enough it is very dangerous.

    He had an answer he wanted to hear and she didnt want to give it to him. She needs to learn to answer in a way that says fuck off and not stutter.

    Bullshit. She's a public servant who's responsability was to answer the question honestly and not dance around it. She makes government look bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavsnipe View Post
    Yes
    Really xav, that is not necissary. I was not clear in my original posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005 View Post
    Bullshit. She's a public servant who's responsability was to answer the question honestly and not dance around it. She makes government look bad.
    Again, this is testimony before congress. The truth is orthogonal to its purpose, which is to score political points. This is the political equivalent of "have you stopped beating your wife?" If she says that Marijuana is not as bad as Heroin she will get shit canned so fast its not even funny. If she dances around the question she looks like an idiot but no one is going to fire her, even though she looks completely incompetent.

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    It is saddening that political "truth" is defined by lobbyists and advertising agencies in the case of something as empirically quantifiable as these various and specific drug effects. They own our public servants.


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