Thread: bullied bus monitor

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

Yet, I am like those kids because I'm a "smug atheist"? I'm sure I'll understand your logic when I'm older, right?

You said it, not me.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

You two take your continual bitching to PMs. Nobody else cares.

They are structural disagreements not bitching.

I disagree with the presented logic and called it out due to the lacking relativity.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

It also occurs to me, what is the bigger problem? Those kids doing the bullying or the kids who stay silent while it happens?

definitely the bullies

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

It also occurs to me, what is the bigger problem? Those kids doing the bullying or the kids who stay silent while it happens?

It's a combination. When I was younger I watched a few kids get bullied and I never stepped in. I don't really know why I didn't or why anyone doesn't for that matter. Maybe it's the avoidance or confrontation, even instinct maybe... I dont know.

I used to bully, I used to get bullied. Both sides suck. It also has nothing to do with pussifacation. Anyone who is silent and doesn't speak out is not a man. Stand up for what's right.

She was getting picked on pretty hard there, that's for sure. But part of me also kind of goes "who gives a fuck". I got picked on a LOT in middle school, and on the bus it had got to the point that I was getting physical harm. My mother kept calling and going to their office trying to get them to fix the problem, and instead they just ignored it. When I finally retaliated, and in a way less physical than what was being done to me on the bus, they decided to kick ME off the bus for the year instead.

I never liked our fucking school system because of shit like that. They will let the bullies win, and they don't care. When I finally try to defend myself, they would punish me instead. "Look at that kid getting bullied, that's becoming a problem. Ok, lets punish the bullied kid and and give his bullies MORE than what they want."

Originally Posted by ***COMMANDER***

Well, then explain why those of us, that did get disciplined, or an spanking, didn't act like this and those of us that raised our kids the same, and didn't put up with this kind of shit,,,,,, Don't act like this.... ?

The bible says so, and it has been proven for 100's of generations. This new generation, that calls time out like a pussy and gets run over,,,,, Those kids don't mind. And they act just like what you see in the video. They don't respect anyone or have any consequences to suffer.

Just ask us that were raised right, how many times we opted out of doing something, because we knew what we would have coming for us, when we got home.... It's a very good deterrent and if you love your kids, you provide them this guidance for their benefit.

As for generations: Keep in mind the frequency at which we hear about such harsh levels of bullying, if this happened so much this would not be headline news. The fact of the matter, is that bullying like this is so rare that this made national news (my newspaper today actually mentions it).


The difference between then and now Commander is that today we have a news medium that allows for publicity of these heinous acts.





There is no radical difference in generations as you suggest, humans have to do these things or be the victim of these things at least once to personally learn why it is wrong. Humans learn from experience, you had to do something wrong once to be beaten to learn and experience the punishment to fear it as a consequence.


My biggest problem with physical punishment is that it only acts as a method of conditioning, it does not teach why these things are wrong, only that you will be punished if you do X. Such thinking is highly undesirable, understanding the why goes a loooooot farther then understanding the consequence of the what. Such thinking leads to ignoring the why's, leading to irrational bias and beliefs (because without asking why, you'll never question said biases or beliefs).

Even without the empirical data, i posit that discrimination is the result of such ideologies: ignoring the why and only focusing on the what.


Granted perhaps the decline in physical punishment has lead to an increase in such malaevolent children, but i'd wager, my generation is significantly more accepting of different forms of people than previous generations.

Parenting is extremely problamatic, as parents have to try and teach children why things are wrong when the children are not even close to an age at which they can even comprehend WHY such things are wrong. Physical punishment is only an apathetic solution to bridging the time between when children start becoming of age at which they can perform these acts and the age at which they can comprehend why these acts are wrong, by attempting to force the children into blind submission.

Personally, I'd say thats a step in the wrong direction.