Thread: Dishonorable discharge

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

You think these spec ops warriors are lying? What the heck is wrong with you? The stuff they are discussing as being leaked is easily verified. This is one thing that I hold sacred personally. Protecting those who fight for our country.

They are taking part in a partisan political ad. Yes, they are lying. Just because someone was in the special forces does not mean they are some perfect beings. They are still human. And that Ben Smith guy seems like a giant douchebag. "No, Mr. President, you didn't kill him. Amurika did!" Lol...

As one example, they were whining about someone admitting the US was behind Stuxnet. So the fuck what? It had been known long before that that it was a US-Israeli cyberattack.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I'm not going to spend another minute on this because it's not worth my time. Anyone, anyone who doesn't care about the leaks of confidential information that have occurred and who would try to call it unimportant is irrationally supporting this administration. That's all there is to it.

I don't give a shit about leaks because I like my government open and transparent, and if they are going to do so willingly, I'd hope a brave whistleblower would step forward and leak the info.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I am disgusted by what I'm seeing here. Not including me and DG, because i know we have, who has posted to this thread that has taken up a weapon in defense of this nation? I really, really would like to know.

The last time someone fought in defense of this nation was arguably WW2. Since then, we haven't fought a war in self-defense. I have no interest in putting my life on the line to fight for our corporatocracy's best interests. It's time to drastically cut the out-of-control defense budget.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I want you to watch this video. There have been way more leaks than the one regarding the Osama Bin Laden attack. Then (regarding this subject) sit down and shut up. Stop defending the bad things that happen in this White House.

We're supposed to spend more than 20 minutes watching a video... and then shut up?

You have unreasonable expectations.


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Originally Posted by Fovezer

That was meant to be a joke. Sometimes text doesn't transmit humor and sarcasm very well, lol.

True dat.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

You think these spec ops warriors are lying? What the heck is wrong with you? The stuff they are discussing as being leaked is easily verified. This is one thing that I hold sacred personally. Protecting those who fight for our country.

I'm not going to spend another minute on this because it's not worth my time. Anyone, anyone who doesn't care about the leaks of confidential information that have occurred and who would try to call it unimportant is irrationally supporting this administration. That's all there is to it.

I am disgusted by what I'm seeing here. Not including me and DG, because i know we have, who has posted to this thread that has taken up a weapon in defense of this nation? I really, really would like to know.

I think your jumping the gun just a bit. The pres isn't the only one that knows whats going on. Any number of people could leak information up to and including those special ops personel. No one here is saying leaking information is a good thing. They are simply saying from what i see the speech the pres gave did not leak any info. Which it didn't.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

The last time someone fought in defense of this nation was arguably WW2. Since then, we haven't fought a war in self-defense. I have no interest in putting my life on the line to fight for our corporatocracy's best interests. It's time to drastically cut the out-of-control defense budget.

Any time a weapon is picked up by a member of our military it is in service and defense of this nation. Just because they aren't storming our beaches doesn't mean it isn't in defense. As an example right now we have a war on terror. How many of those terrorists had plans to do something here on our soil? You dont know because they never got the chance.

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

What about Vietnam? Korea? The Persian Gulf Wars I&II?

What about them?

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Any time a weapon is picked up by a member of our military it is in service and defense of this nation. Just because they aren't storming our beaches doesn't mean it isn't in defense. As an example right now we have a war on terror. How many of those terrorists had plans to do something here on our soil? You dont know because they never got the chance.

I strongly disagree. It makes for a nice motto, but I don't think it is true. You could say a few of the recent wars were fought over our interests, but not in our defense. I don't oppose all military action, but I also hate how every war has people saying the troops are over there "fighting for our freedoms." They aren't. In Korea and Vietnam, we support vicious dictators because they were our "friends" and we had to stop those dirty commies from spreading. Iraq 1 was about Kuwait's freedom, not ours. Iraq 2 was about absolutely nothing. I supported initial action into Afghanistan, but the current occupation is only serving to kill more Americans.

And how well have they defended our freedoms? Well, we have the PATRIOT Act. Military Commissions Act. Department of Homeland Security. The TSA. Doing a bang-up job, I see.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

I strongly disagree. It makes for a nice motto, but I don't think it is true. You could say a few of the recent wars were fought over our interests, but not in our defense. I don't oppose all military action, but I also hate how every war has people saying the troops are over there "fighting for our freedoms." They aren't. In Korea and Vietnam, we support vicious dictators because they were our "friends" and we had to stop those dirty commies from spreading. Iraq 1 was about Kuwait's freedom, not ours. Iraq 2 was about absolutely nothing. I supported initial action into Afghanistan, but the current occupation is only serving to kill more Americans.

And how well have they defended our freedoms? Well, we have the PATRIOT Act. Military Commissions Act. Department of Homeland Security. The TSA. Doing a bang-up job, I see.

You can disagree all you want but its very simple. Every base, consulate, , embassy, and every other building our government has anywhere in the world is sovereign US soil. Which means if we set up an impromptu base anywhere its ours to defend. So you can disagree but your still wrong.

The rest your entitled to your opinion regardless of how fucked up i think it is.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

So you can disagree but your still wrong, IN MY OPINION.

Fixed that for you, since you made a big fuss about that in one of my posts.