Thread: Sound familiar?

All bullshit aside Obama sucks, Mitt sucks, Paul sucks, dems suck, reps suck, libs suck, and congressmen suck. We will never cure the problem until we get rid of party line bullshit and put up some people WORTHY of the jobs that need to be done.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Is the Churchill Bust Controversy a Total Bust? - ABC News

Here's a quote from the article:

"In February 2009, the British Embassy told The Telegraph that the bust “sits in the palatial residence of ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald … a British Embassy spokesman said: ‘The bust of Sir Winston Churchill by Sir Jacob Epstein was uniquely lent to a foreign head of state, President George W. Bush, from the Government Art Collection in the wake of 9/11 as a signal of the strong transatlantic relationship. It was lent for the first term of office of President Bush. When the president was elected for his second and final term, the loan was extended until January 2009.
The new president has decided not to continue this loan and the bust has now been returned. It is on display at the ambassador’s residence.”

Yes it was scheduled to go back, because Obama had been asked after the election if he would like to keep the bust in the White House by the British government. Decorating and plans for decorating begin well before the new President moves into the White House. THE DECISION WAS MADE BY OBAMA HIMSELF BEFORE HE ARRIVED. Since you decided to cross the line and insult me I'll respond by saying that you sound like a complete fucktard for making these comments without understanding that fact.

Why the hell do they need TWO busts, anyways? Your article is a he-said-she-said piece where the British said the new President didn't renew the loan and the White House said the decision was made before Obama was in office. In short, who the fuck cares? This is another non-issue the far-right made up.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

You insulted my sources? LOL please. You just called the Associated Press, Huffington Post, US News and World Report, National Review, Yahoo News, The Washington Times, and Pulitzer Prize winner Politifact.com "All laughable at best". How desperate are you to try and keep people from hearing this information anyway?

Lol, right. No, I'm criticizing that you used a Politifact story that rated Glenn Beck's statement as mostly false AND contradicted what you said about the Muslim Brotherhood, an op/ed from US News and World, FrontPage, National Review, Hot Air, some right-wing Christian Wintery Knight blog, and misrepresenting a VICE documentary. Pathetic, and like I said, laughable at best.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

These are FACTS Fov. All I'm doing is putting the pieces together. I was basically thinking this before and once I saw the D'Sousa film 2016: Obama's America 2016 Obama's America Movie Tickets, Reviews, and Photos - Fandango.com, it helped me fill in a few gaps but fit in with what I was already thinking after reading Obama's book. By the way I highly recommend this film to anyone who wants to understand more about Obama, in HIS OWN WORDS and in the words of his own family, former pastor and friends.

No, you have no facts. You are seeing things that aren't there and then drawing connections with no evidence that require logic leaps that no sane person can make. As for D'Souza, he has NEVER even talked to Obama. Not once. Yet he claims to know about what Obama is thinking? Lol! D'Souza is a hack and a liar and none of his bullshit withstands any real scrutiny or basic logic.
FACT CHECK: Anti-Obama film muddy on facts | Entertainment | The Seattle Times

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Earlier I didn't even mention the Black Liberation Theology of Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor of over 20 years. This is theology rooted in marxism, anti-colonialism and racism based on hate and distrust for white America. There is a lot more covered in the film as well. What I've said has some of these points covered, but I also believe things D'Sousa does not.

Care to show what Obama is doing now that would fall under this "black liberation theology of Jeremiah Wright"? Obama threw him under the bus the first chance he could. His membership in that church was more for political benefit over true belief. That said, I'll await the examples of where he is implementing this. And what do you say about Romney who belongs to a church that believed that black people were inferior to whites? He must have truly believed that or else he would have left the church, right?

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

And YES, in a nuclear world where we still have enemies who possess nukes, disarmament is NOT a good thing. We're not all gonna sit around the camp fire with a nuclear Iran and North Korea and China and sing kumbaya for Pete's sake.

China isn't a military threat to us, Iran doesn't have weapons yet and no viable means to reach us, and North Korea can barely launch a rocket before it fails spectacularly. Even if you think we need a nuclear deterrent, we don't need thousands of nukes. Mutual disarmament is a good thing. It improves diplomacy and cooperation. Why do you think Iran wants nukes, anyways? Because Israel has them and are warmongering and making threats against Iran.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

The video you posted was practically proof of my points as well - I mean, did you even watch that before you posted it? I don't think I would be proud to post a video of Bill Mahr as a serious response to any point - his show is an entertainment show anyway. You want to talk about a questionable source? Wow. You probably think that the Jon Stewart Show is news, too, don't you?

You didn't make a serious post, it was a conspiracy theory-filled rant. I just showed a hilarious beat down of the guy you got all your points from by a comedian. It was funny. I never used it as a source for any facts, though.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

It amuses me that when you really don't have a cogent counter-point, the person you are discussing things with becomes a bat shit crazy crackpot that shouldn't be listened to. That's so cute. Saul Alinsky would be PROUD of you. Keep up the good work Fov.

When you believe everything you see in a propaganda film, then, yeah, I'm gonna call a spade a spade.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Are you kidding? Socialist is a generous description of Obama. What he is is a Marxist with very severe anti-colonial views. To the point where he wants to punish those he views are colonialist and support the supposed "victims" of colonialism. For example, this completely explains his return of the bust of Churchill to England. He hates Churchill because he sees him as a colonialist. No, Obama is most assuredly NOT "one of us". Obama hates America for what he sees are egregious colonialist crusades around the world and he seeks to bring the U.S. down to the level of all the other countries in the world. He would love to see a nuclear Iran (as evidenced by his inaction on that issue), he has turned his back on Israel and he gives foreign aid to our enemies. He has quietly overseen an unprecedented planned reduction in our offensive and defensive nuclear capability He has personally overseen and helped Al Quaida take over Egypt and Libya, and is doing the same in Syria. Meanwhile, his Marxist goals will be fulfilled as the economy crashes and to fix his own created problem (capitalizing of course on what Bush started with the crap he did adding crazy debt but for different stupid reasons), he will surely propose government takeover of industry and private enterprise as the solution. Hell he talked about it very recently in public.

And you and your friends on the left are either suckers who don't know this man or what the fuck he stands for, or you share his dream of destroying this country and re-molding it into something that doesn't resemble the republic it was founded as. I can forgive the first election but this one? Shame on anyone who votes for this man. I would vote for a fucking retarded goat named Jimbo instead of Obama. I'd even love to have Hilary Clinton instead of Obama, she would never have pulled this shit.

Fov I never mentioned this before but I have been all over the world and spent a considerable amount of time outside the U.S. and I have a different viewpoint than a lot of people because of it. As I have said, either you are a complete sucker or you share Obama's dream.

Everyone reading this had better start looking at the shit that is going on right now in this country very seriously, and had better take a close look at what the people around you are saying and doing with regard to the political situation in this country. For the most part I believe that the 2 party system we have is a sham, and I do believe that Republicans and Democrats do have very different visions of what they want America to look like. However the part that is the sham is the notion that they aren't playing to the same end game. Both sides are playing to put the U.S. into a one world government, which is bad juju. But Obama is also wedging his own fucked up personal, radical agenda in there too.

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

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