What a mess.

**SmokenScion** · 09-27-12, 12:13 PM

Didn't bush ignore warnings about 9/11, um, we only found out about that a few weeks ago. This is a gleaming light of Gov't Transparency.

**SourceSkills** · 09-27-12, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Ranger10

How did this thread go... I mean... another religion debate?! Fine. Let me throw "water" on the flame. Can't have this thing breaking out of control. Where's my red can of water?

"face palm!"

lol.

**Fovezer** · 09-27-12, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Then they lied, and the attacked reporters who uncovered the truth. What fucking country is this? THIS PRESIDENT NEEDS TO BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE. At this point it's better than he deserves, but it's the best we can do.

If you want to talk about lying, what did you think about Bush lying about Iraq to get his war?

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

By the way, I absolutely can't wait to see Fov's post that the Wall Street Journal is a conservative rag or whatever other sort of derision and obfuscation he will try and propagate, rather than to agree with a "Yeah they really fucked up on this issue".

Yeah, the WSJ opinion page is a bastion of unbiased and legit news. Right... Are you delusional or something and refuse to find real news sources? Or do you prefer to rely on right-wing opinion pieces and conspiracy websites? Next thing I know is that you'll be telling me Alex Jones is legit, too. LOL!

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

AS I KEEP SAYING, WHAT A MESS.

No, THIS is a mess:

LOL. Four more years for Obama coming up! Get used to it! You know it's going to happen, too. Gobama!

**-Lazarus-** · 09-27-12, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Who, specifically, are the other people you are referring to?

People who, like me were saying that the attack clearly was a terrorist attack and wasn't about a video - this was obvious to anyone except the blinders-on liberals who post here.

**Fovezer** · 09-27-12, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

People who, like me were saying that the attack clearly was a terrorist attack and wasn't about a video - this was obvious to anyone except the blinders-on liberals who post here.

Hey, dipshit, I was the first one to point out this was a planned terrorist attack. Well before you ever did.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

This was a planned attack by a terrorist group, but it wasn't with support of the Libyan government or the people necessarily, so I think it would be wrong to punish the populous for the sins of a few.

I said it repeatedly in this thread, too: http://www.teamplayergaming.com/news...ml#post1671789

You wrongly, of course, accused the "al-Qaeda-run Libyan government" for the attack.

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-27-12, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

People who, like me were saying that the attack clearly was a terrorist attack and wasn't about a video - this was obvious to anyone except the blinders-on liberals who post here.

List their names.

**-Lazarus-** · 09-27-12, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Fovezer

If you want to talk about lying, what did you think about Bush lying about Iraq to get his war?

I think the evidence shows clearly that there was a massive intelligence failure that led to the decisions President Bush made about the war. 5 or more different intelligence agencies including MI-5, Mossad, the CIA and others all had the same information at the same time saying that there was a verifiable threat and WMD's in Iraq. If you were President, you would have made the same call, and been just as wrong. To say that in that specific case President Bush lied is specious at best.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

Yeah, the WSJ opinion page is a bastion of unbiased and legit news. Right... Are you delusional or something and refuse to find real news sources? Or do you prefer to rely on right-wing opinion pieces and conspiracy websites? Next thing I know is that you'll be telling me Alex Jones is legit, too. LOL!

Can you please list for all of us what you think are unbiased and legitimate news sources? If you are going to sit there and tell me the Wall Street Journal isn't a solid source for news or journalistic integrity, my response to you is that you are a fucking idiot zealot who could not possibly be reasoned with.

Originally Posted by Fovezer

No, THIS is a mess:

LOL. Four more years for Obama coming up! Get used to it! You know it's going to happen, too. Gobama!

If you listen, you can clearly hear part of the crowd chanting Ryan and part chanting Romney at the same time. Romney was just having a little fun with his supporters. Big fucking deal. Do I really need to point out that it also makes you look like an even bigger fucking idiot that you made your comment above about unbiased sources and then posted a link to an MSNBC video? It's just sad. It is.

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-27-12, 02:59 PM

Calling people a big fucking idiot isn't a very christian thing to do, now is it?

**MaFioSo** · 09-27-12, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I think the evidence shows clearly that there was a massive intelligence failure that led to the decisions President Bush made about the war. 5 or more different intelligence agencies including MI-5, Mossad, the CIA and others all had the same information at the same time saying that there was a verifiable threat and WMD's in Iraq. If you were President, you would have made the same call, and been just as wrong. To say that in that specific case President Bush lied is specious at best.

Okay, so why didn't we leave after we found out there were no WMD?

**Fovezer** · 09-27-12, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I think the evidence shows clearly that there was a massive intelligence failure that led to the decisions President Bush made about the war. 5 or more different intelligence agencies including MI-5, Mossad, the CIA and others all had the same information at the same time saying that there was a verifiable threat and WMD's in Iraq. If you were President, you would have made the same call, and been just as wrong. To say that in that specific case President Bush lied is specious at best.

Ok, just what I thought. You will vigorously defend and find excuses for Bush for lying but will attack Obama with the most specious claims for lying. Got it. I'd be slightly more upset about starting a war based on lies that ends up killing thousands of people than an administration taking longer than a day to admit what happened in Benghazi.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Can you please list for all of us what you think are unbiased and legitimate news sources? If you are going to sit there and tell me the Wall Street Journal isn't a solid source for news or journalistic integrity, my response to you is that you are a fucking idiot zealot who could not possibly be reasoned with.

My response is that you cannot read or refuse to read my posts. You posted an OPINION piece from the WSJ, and their opinion articles are incredibly biased. I said nothing about the integrity of the paper itself. But the fact that you used Alex Jones' websites for anything other than a laugh shows me you have no idea what constitutes a solid news source or even what journalistic integrity is. Stop trying to pass opinion pieces off as real news.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

If you listen, you can clearly hear part of the crowd chanting Ryan and part chanting Romney at the same time. Romney was just having a little fun with his supporters. Big fucking deal. Do I really need to point out that it also makes you look like an even bigger fucking idiot that you made your comment above about unbiased sources and then posted a link to an MSNBC video? It's just sad. It is.

Hahaha, your defense is almost as pathetic as the Romney campaign! LOL! Too funny. I posted the clip because it was funny to see Scarborough, who is a Republican, react to this disaster of a campaign. I didn't post it as evidence of anything, just for laughs.