What a mess.

**Fovezer** · 09-27-12, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

You really think its hard to hide something? Shit NK built a nuclear weapons plant without us knowing. Iran has done the same thing? Obviously its not hard to hide something if you truly do not want it to be found. The possibility is definitely there but i dont know if i would place a bet on it existing or being found anytime soon.

But we know about Iran and North Korea and we had good knowledge about what they were or are trying to do. We know those are active programs, too. If we haven't found anything in 8 years, and all the evidence we have points to the Iraqi program being ended in the 90's, odds are that is what happened and not that it's still a secret and we haven't found anything remotely connected to a modern weapons program.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Its all about perspective isnt it? lol

Very much so, lol.

**deathgodusmc** · 09-27-12, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Fovezer

But we know about Iran and North Korea and we had good knowledge about what they were or are trying to do. We know those are active programs, too. If we haven't found anything in 8 years, and all the evidence we have points to the Iraqi program being ended in the 90's, odds are that is what happened and not that it's still a secret and we haven't found anything remotely connected to a modern weapons program.

Yes we do now but we didnt at the time. We also have some assumptions of what is going on for some things but no proof.

I haven't seen any evidence pointing against what your saying for iraq with a new weapons program but i also know how much the government hides from the public. So i cant disregard the possibility of it being there anymore now then i could then. I just have to take what im given and make my own decision of what the possibilities are.

**-Lazarus-** · 09-27-12, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Because we found wmd's.

Well he has a point. We didn't find more than remnants but we found evidence that they had been moved.

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-27-12, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Because we found wmd's.

Nope, not the ones we were told were there. The ones that posed a grave and imminent threat. The kind of threat that forces a nation to go war. A war that killed more than 4000+ of it's own soldiers and untold thousands of civilians.

No, the wmd's that were promised were never found.

Wikileaks documents show WMDs found in Iraq « Hot Air

That's not what was promised and wasn't worth the price that was paid both monetarily and lives lost.

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-27-12, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mobi

Pfft because not justifying why we are going to war is so smart.. yeah pretty stupid comment right there..

Lets see
WW2 we went to war because of we were attacked by the Axis..
Korean war we went to war to prevent our south korean allies from a communism revolt.
(pointless) Vietnam- Went to fight another countries war and lost support rapidly.
(pointless) Operation Desert storm - To gain a foot hold in Middle eastern territories (mostly oil rich)
(pointless) Iraqi Freedom - Fighting because neoconservatives wanted us to after 9/11 also to control oil.. and make a pro american democracy which we failed to do so..

So yeah we could of saved more money if we stayed out of pointless wars

I'm going to have to disagree with you on Desert Storm. Had Iraq been allowed to overtake Kuwait, Saudi Arabia probably would have been next. As messed as it is, our economy is too heavily dependent on their fortunes to let that happen.

**deathgodusmc** · 09-28-12, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Nope, not the ones we were told were there. The ones that posed a grave and imminent threat. The kind of threat that forces a nation to go war. A war that killed more than 4000+ of it's own soldiers and untold thousands of civilians.

No, the wmd's that were promised were never found.

Wikileaks documents show WMDs found in Iraq « Hot Air

That's not what was promised and wasn't worth the price that was paid both monetarily and lives lost.

Your gonna have to show me what we were promised? I dont recall that at all.

**SmokenScion** · 09-28-12, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Your gonna have to show me what we were promised? I dont recall that at all.

Read em and weep, its a clip show.
Then check yourself for temporary Amnesia.

**deathgodusmc** · 09-28-12, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

Read em and weep, its a clip show.
Then check yourself for temporary Amnesia.

Really your proof is a comedians clip? I think you need to rewatch and let me know where there was a promise given. Cut clips from interviews can be made to say anything.

**gehn** · 09-28-12, 11:47 AM

Why are we still talking about this? There are more important issues going on, like didn't you see there will be a bacon shortage next year! We're doomed!!!!!

**Fovezer** · 09-28-12, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by gehn

Why are we still talking about this? There are more important issues going on, like didn't you see there will be a bacon shortage next year! We're doomed!!!!!

Obviously that's Obama's fault, too! Bungle, bungle, bungle! We should impeach Obama for not stocking up our nations bacon reserves!