Stage 2 debate.

**~BigTymer~** · 10-12-12, 12:46 AM

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

funny thing is they both look better with the others hair

**~BigTymer~** · 10-12-12, 12:54 AM

before I forget neither won the debate. I was rather bored watching it.

**Morningfrost** · 10-12-12, 01:06 AM

Ryan looks creepy as shit with Biden's hair lol. Makes him look like he's trying to convince a kid to get in his van lol.

~Morningfrost

**Morningfrost** · 10-12-12, 01:15 AM

I'm about halfway through the debate at the moment, and I wouldn't say either is actually winning. Biden's being rather disrespectful, constantly interrupting Ryan, but that seems to be an intolerance of bullshit rather than anything else. Problem is that just like in the Presidential debate, bullshit is coming from both sides. The fact checker sites I've been running in the background make it seem like Ryan is a bit ahead in the bullshit department (telling more bullshit), but Biden's spewing out his fair share as well.

If it continues like it has so far though, I doubt I'll end up watching the whole thing lol.

~Morningfrost

**~BigTymer~** · 10-12-12, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

Ryan looks creepy as shit with Biden's hair lol. Makes him look like he's trying to convince a kid to get in his van lol.

~Morningfrost

or sell me volvo

**Morningfrost** · 10-12-12, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by ~BigTymer~

or sell me volvo

I know, right? Ryan's gonna have to dye his hair for the rest of his life, cause if he ever end's up with Biden's hair the only job's he'll look qualified for are child molester and used car salesman lol.

~Morningfrost

**Fovezer** · 10-12-12, 01:36 AM

From what I saw, it was a clear Biden win. The first one was a clear loss for Obama, this one was a clear win. Simple as that. I liked the aggressiveness by Biden calling out the bullshit whereas Obama was much too timid and gave canned responses. If I think about it, this was the exact opposite of the first debate.

And the moderator did a much better job. I liked how she kept after Ryan when he absolutely refused to directly answer the questions, instead spinning to rehearsed and canned answers.

Overall, I think this pretty much keeps the race where it has been for the past year.

**~BigTymer~** · 10-12-12, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by ~BigTymer~

I thought she was a little harder on Ryan. After asking a question and he would answer she would follow up with how or why but wouldn't do the same towards Biden. She also cut Ryan off twice as much as she did Biden. To me both had their strong points but Biden came off as a jerk, disrespectfull and looked like an ass hole really. Laughing, cutting Ryan off, just a over all jerk. I hate the thought that guy could become the president if something happend to Obama.

a little fact check here: Truth Squad: The vice presidential debate - First Read

Biden claimed that the Obama administration did not know that the ambassador and other personnel on the ground had been more asking for more security. But the State Department did know that requests for more security resources had been made and were turned down. A State Department official acknowledged that testifying Wednesday on Capitol Hill.

Biden also said Ryan helped the debt pile up with the cost of 2 wars. Yet Biden himself voted for both wars.

Biden charged that Ryan’s original plan with medicare would raise out-of-pocket costs. That is true BUT there has since been a revised plan with a uncertainty if it would raise costs.

Obama admin. did add the most crippling sanctions ever. However, they did not want to sanction Iran's central bank until Congress forced the president to do so.

One more fact: FACT CHECK: Slips on Libya, Syria, auto bailout - Yahoo! News

BIDEN, when asked who would pay more taxes in Obama's second term: "People making a million dollars or more."
THE FACTS: Obama's proposed tax increase reaches farther down the income ladder than millionaires. He wants to roll back Bush-era tax cuts for individuals making over $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.