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10-23-12, 08:36 AM #51
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I see it appears you have finally gone all in and chosen a side. Congratulations. Too bad it's the wrong one. As for the landslide comments, I have no idea what you are talking about. Newsflash - the election hasn't happened yet. And me predicting it had nothing to do with Fox News...
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10-23-12, 08:41 AM #52
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Welcome to BigTymer's Bizarro World, where reality is shunned in favor of delusion! Geez, if we go by what you think, Romney won all the debates! At least I'm able to take a step back and look at the debates rationally and admit Obama lost the first one. You cannot ever admit your guy was wrong or lost.
This was supposed to be a FOREIGN POLICY DEBATE. Hello!
Obama has been President for 4 years. His plan is out there. He has a jobs bill Republicans refuse to pass in the House and he has said he wants to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for the top percentile. Romney won't even release his tax plan, and you want to say OBAMA has no plan?! ROFL!
Paul Ryan, the GOP VP, supports those cuts, too. He voted for them! But hey, I support heavy military cuts, so I won't be upset if they go through, but they won't. After the election, a deal will be reached, I guarantee it.
Romney was easily flustered and looked incredibly naive on foreign policy. Like pathetically naive. Whenever he actually did address a foreign policy point, instead of trying to pivot to domestic policy, it was basically to say, "Obama did something good, and I agree with him."
And everything Romney said was wrong, too. Shocking, I know! Did you even read your own link?
But not everything Obama said was wrong, for example:
PolitiFact | Barack Obama says Mitt Romney would spend $2 trilllion that the military hasn't asked for
LOL, you are absolutely delusional if you think Faux is anywhere close to being "even." You have fully bought into the shit they sold you without even questioning it, lol. "Hard left media" HAHA.
This is absolutely, 100% true. While I support the bill because it did make improvements, it wasn't a drastic overhaul and resulted in many corporate giveaways.
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10-23-12, 08:50 AM #53
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It was sad to see Romney and his little dismissive, smirking glance he gave to Obama while he was talking. I know he spent hours in debate class working on that but it's no substitute for actual debate skills and a coherent plan that can be presented to the American people.
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10-23-12, 08:50 AM #54
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Anyone who honestly thinks that doctors are going to quit working or stop accepting medicare based on Obama care should read a little more about how medical billing works. Take a look at how the private insurance companies, in many cases, are paying doctors less than medicare. Read into how these insurance companies don't pay doctors for injection therapy. Furthermore, take a look at the operating income levels of these insurance companies and tell me exactly how they are maintaining a constant 70% profit.
Take a look at the contract negotiation process and gain some understanding about how Obamacare is really going to affect these medical practices. IMO any doctor who opposes the Affordable Healthcare Act is not in the profession for helping people.
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10-23-12, 08:54 AM #55
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I'm not sure to whom you are speaking. I will address this though. I have been very, very clear that there is a lot I don't care for about Romney. I'm not sure Romney is here to save the "good ole us of a" or whatever. I think Romney has stated clearly how he intends to handle spending, and that one thing is more important than anything else.
I don't like that Romney is a Mormon. I don't like that Romney was ever pro abortion. I don't like that Romney is so liberal as a Republican. Among other things. But you JUST DON'T GET IT. Obama's policies are killing the middle class. Destroying it at a rapid pace. Right now we're trading higher wage middle class jobs for part time low wage jobs in droves. Do i even need to go over the stats once again? That's the biggest lie of them all from either candidate - that Obama wants to grow the country from the middle out. Nothing, NOTHING Obama has implemented in the past 4 years has done that. And Obama is a smart guy. So it is safe to think that if every policy he guy has actually promoted so far had been killing the middle class in America, that it is on purpose.
We cannot take another 4 years of this. But please, pray tell, explain Obama's actual strategy to me. Help me to understand how all this insane spending will make the economy go.
For real. Do you even understand what the plan is yourself? Or are you a drone like the rest of them? I know what is driving this economy. But please feel free to tell me how I am wrong. Tell me how what Obama is doing can create jobs without destroying the economy and destroying the middle class and or driving wealth out of the United States to elsewhere.
Can ANYONE explain the Obama fiscal strategy and the orgy of spending in a clear, cogent way? Not "why he has done it" but "what is the intended result"? I'll be honest. I don't think even one of you can, unless part of your answer is a collectivist strategy that is antithetical to what America is about.
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10-23-12, 10:04 AM #57
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What happened to Obama last night:
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10-23-12, 10:34 AM #58
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No I can't explain it.
If I were to explain it it would be with the assumption that the results so far are intended. And if that is the case then it's not looking good for the President. So... The results aren't there so what am I to believe about it? That it's working? What is the end goal of these policies? What is the result of all this spending and social programs supposed to look like? Can a liberal Obama supporter please explain it to all of us?
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10-23-12, 10:56 AM #59
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I am curious. We're are down to the last 2 weeks before the election. How come no one points out Romney / Ryan have yet to give specifics regarding taxes, health care and so on. Apparently they plan to pull the rabbit out of the hat after the election.
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