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    Quote Originally Posted by Fovezer View Post
    Not the weapons he lied about. He also lied about his ties to Islamic terrorists. Oh, and he conflated al Qaeda with Iraq.

    ...Figment of your imagination and last time you brought this up it was solidly refuted.

    Senate Panel Finds Iraq Intelligence Exaggerations - NYTimes.com

    ...One, I said I didn't support impeachment of Bush and two, you've already shown that you have no desire for facts or truth so long as you can find any way you can to impeach Obama. And I really don't care what conspiracy theorists like you think about me.
    The ultimate proof that Bush could not have been impeached for what you are asserting is that he was not impeached despite the introduction of impeachment articles in congress:

    Efforts to impeach George W. Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    During the presidency of George W. Bush, several American politicians sought to either investigate Bush for allegedly impeachable offenses, or to bring actual impeachment charges on the floor of the United States House of Representatives Judiciary Committee. The most significant of these efforts occurred on June 10, 2008, when Congressman Dennis Kucinich, along with co-sponsor Robert Wexler, introduced 35 articles of impeachment [1] against Bush to the U.S. House of Representatives.[2] The House voted 251 to 166 to refer the impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee on July 25, where no further action was taken on it.
    The Judiciary Committee investigated and the issue was dropped. Why? Because it was not possible to impeach Bush on the evidence is the only really reasonable conclusion one can come to here. I'm sure if you want to invent a conspiracy theory I'll listen to it - you know I'm intrigued by these sorts of things.

    As far as that article you linked - it said:

    The report was especially critical of statements by Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney that linked Iraq to Al Qaeda and raised the possibility that Mr. Hussein might supply the terrorist group with weapons of mass destruction. “Representing to the American people that the two had an operational partnership and posed a single, indistinguishable threat was fundamentally misleading and led the nation to war on false premises,” Mr. Rockefeller wrote.

    Mr. Bond and four other Republicans on the committee sharply dissented from the report’s findings and suggested the investigation was a partisan smokescreen to obscure the real story: that Central Intelligence Agency failed the Bush administration by delivering intelligence assessments to policymakers that have since been discredited.


    In a detailed minority report, four of those Republicans accused Democrats of hypocrisy and their own campaign of cherry-picking — namely, refusing to include misleading public statements by such top Democrats as Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Mr. Rockefeller.


    As an example, they pointed to an October 2002 speech by Mr. Rockefeller, who declared to his Senate colleagues that he had arrived at the “inescapable conclusion that the threat posed to America by Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction is so serious that despite the risks, and we should not minimize the risks, we must authorize the president to take the necessary steps to deal with the threat.”
    What a load of crap. Again, if Bush could have been impeached he would have. and I'll say the same damned thing about Obama too if he doesn't get impeached.
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    One last thing - here we go again with the two wrongs make a right logic you love to use Fov. I would say that the left loves to use, but honestly at this point I'm thinking even the left would be embarrassed by your poor tactics and lack of logic.

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    Keep it on topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    Yes Fov, it is. This is exactly what President Nixon was impeached on one count in the House of Representatives for. Of course he wasn't officially impeached since he resigned in disgrace. You don't think that Nixon lied under oath like Clinton did, do you? You really don't read the posts here do you?
    We'll never know with Nixon. He resigned and was never placed under oath to testify. How much he actually knew was never determined, but he absolutely did take part in some things like secretly recording people.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    By the way, it's not me that will or won't impeach Obama. It's the United States House of Representatives.
    And it's up to the Senate to convict. It has to be a 2/3rds majority, too, and if the Democratic caucus is going to have 55 members, that means the Republicans would need at least 22 Democrats to vote guilty. Barring some totally mind-blowing revelation, that isn't going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Lazarus- View Post
    See, if an Obama administration official is proven to have lied under oath about Benghazi, it's directly attributable to Obama for obstruction of justice based on previous case law. I don't know how I'd personally feel about that to be honest. I'm just talking about the facts based on prior cases and I haven't inserted my own opinion except where explicitly stated. Do you really want to know what I think, or are you more comfortable assuming?
    Lol, no, it isn't. Even in Nixon's case, his aides were arrested, tried, and convicted. He wasn't.

    And I'm fine assuming, thanks for asking, though. You are mad Obama won and will do whatever it takes, regardless of the truth, to try and impeach him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fovezer View Post
    You are mad Obama won and will do whatever it takes, regardless of the truth, to try and impeach him.
    I told you Fov, I'm not in a position to impeach the President. Though I am flattered that you think I am! :-)

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    Hmmm Gen Jack Kelly is being investigated and may be charged under UCMJ that his conduct will most likely be Conduct Unbecoming an Officer. IF its proved that Obama Knew that the attack was Not because of a spontaneus protest and Lied about it for amost a month do you think that is Conduct Unbecoming of a President ? Just asking ..............

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    Its hard to find 537 new employees at once.
    With 24 million people out of work or under employed I think you might fill those rather quick. I'm sue not all of those people worked at McDonalds and even if they did I still think they would be smarter than Harry Reid & Nancy PP
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