Thread: Pay Raises.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Says the government employee for a government that has no idea how to meet a timeline to the contractor thats comes in ahead of schedule much less never missed a deadline.

I'm also a tax payer...

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

No one said you didnt.

I don't recall mentioning anyone did...

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Government employees on average are over paid for the duties they perform. However i wouldn't even be opposed to a raise as long as the fed got a budget in place while running without a deficit. If they cant meet those requirements then no they dont get a raise without shit being talked. That being said elected officials that haven't been getting the job done giving themselves a raise is a slap in the face to everyone that pays the taxes their way over priced salary comes from.

So we all agree that the elected guys should not get a raise. But am I understanding you that you think ending the freeze is fine as long as we govies put up with "shit being talked"?

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Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Your the one that felt the need to mention how hard you work. Just making sure you knew no one said you didnt work hard.

I don't need someone like you to point out what people on this thread have and haven't said. Nice observation though little buddy.

Nice SCOOBY btw Gumby

Originally Posted by yungryder

Because as Gumby has mentioned it is in essence NOT a raise but an end to a freeze that had a two year time frame. Unfortunately, the time frame concludes during a time of economical anguish. This freeze came into effect in 2010, and was placed to cut back on budget. He could have proposed another freeze, but didn't. So now things will go back to normal for us Federal Employees.

Yes back to normal for federal employees, that see their wages increase while the wages of the people paying for them decrease. I really don't like to spend too much time on this types of issues. The reason being is that these federal pay raises are really a drop into an Olympic size swimming pool, which is our national deficit. Still it doesn't change the fact that they are not warranted.

I would propose a law that freezes pay raises for federal employees any time there is a decline in wages for the American work force. As I said, the American workforce has taken an 8% pay cut over the last few years. Had such a law been in place, federal workers would not have to take an 8% pay cut like the rest of us, they wouldn't take any pay cut for that matter, they just wouldn't be eligible to get an increase at the expense of the tax payer.

I see what you mean, about it going back to "normal". It's not like Obama passed some new law giving all federal employees raises, that law was already in place, he just decided not to do anything about it this time. And really I don't remember Fox News praising the president for freezing federal wages when he did it, but now that he has not, they're demonizing him for it.

Still that "normal" that you speak of is a flawed system. I know it's flawed, because there is no way that federal employees should be seeing increases in their pay when the rest of the American people are seeing significant decreases.

So it's unjust any way you look at it. The taxes taken from the American workforce pay for federal wages. Now the American work force has seen an 8% decrease in their wages. So not only are they getting paid less, more of their tax money is being spent to give pay increases to federal workers.

Originally Posted by yungryder

But I know I work damn hard for my income.

Yes I bet you do, nobody is questioning that. But the America workforce works damn hard too, yet there not getting any raises, there taking pay cuts.