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    Arrested for posting political views on Facebook.

    Holy crap. This poor guy. Vocal on Facebook and the government comes knocking on his door. Check this out:

    Marine Brandon Raub speaks out following detention - NBC12.com - Richmond, VA News

    Below is what Mr. Raub wrote on Facebook; this combined with some song lyrics Raub posted: "Sharpened my axe, and I'm here to sever heads" is what apparently caused our federal government to look more closely at him and to try to have him involuntarily committed into a psychiatric hospital:

    America has lost itself. We have lost who we truly are. This is the land of the free and the home of the brave. This is the land of Thomas Jefferson. This is the land of Benjamin Franklin. This is the land of Fredrick Douglas. This is the land of Smedley Butler. This is the land John F. Kennedy. This is the land of Martin Luther King. This is the land where the cowboy wins. This is the land where you can start from the bottom and get to the top. This is the land where regardless of your race and ethnicity you can succeed and build a better life for you and your family. This is the land where every race coexists peacefully. This is the land where justice wins. This is the land where liberty dwells. This is the land where freedom reigns. This is the land where we help the poor, and people help each other. This is land where people beat racism.
    The federal reserve is wrong. They have designed a system based off of greed and fear. They designed a system to crush the middle class between taxes and inflation. This is wrong, and it is unjust. It is wrong.

    We have allowed ourselves to be deceived and seduced by the powers of the printing press. It is not a good system. It discourages saving: the foundation for all stable economic activity. The federal reserve is artificially manipulating interests rates and creating phony economic data. This thing has deceived our entire nation.

    They created it 1913. They also created the income tax in 1913. They encouraged the growth of debt so they can tax you on it. There is interest on the debt. Your government is in bed with these people. They want to enslave you to the government so that they can control every aspect of your lives. It is an empire based on lies. They operate of greed and fear.

    There is a better way. It's called freedom. Freedom is called a lot of things. But there is a true meaning. It means very simply that you have the right to do whatever you want as long as you are not infringing on the freedoms of other people.

    I firmly believe that God set America apart from the other nations of the world. He saved a place where people could come to to escape bad systems of government. This system we have created works. It really works.

    There is evil going on all around the world. The United States was meant to lead the charge against injustice, but through our example not our force. People do not respond to having liberty and freedom forced on them.

    Men and Women follow courage. They follow leadership, and courage. Our example has paved the way for people all around the world to change their forms of government.

    Force is not the way because liberty is a powerful concept. The idea that men can govern themselves is the basis for every just form of government.

    We can govern ourselves. We do not need to be governed by men who want to install a one world banking system. These men have machine hearts. Machine and unnatural hearts. They have blocked out the possibility of a better world. They fear human progress. They have monopolies on everything.

    This life can be free and beautiful. There are enough resources on this earth to support the world's population. There are enough resources on this earth to feed everyone. There is enough land for everyone to own their own land and farm, and produce their own energy.

    These people have been hiding technology. There are ways to create power easily. There is technology that can provide free cheap power for everyone. There are farming techniques that can feed the entire world.

    They are controlling your media. They have dumbed you down through your school systems. They have systematically dismantled the constitution. It is in rags.

    The bill of rights is being systematically dismantled. Men have spilled their blood for those rights.

    Your sons and daughters, your brothers and sisters, and Americas best young men and women are loosing their limbs. They are loosing their lives. They are loosing the hearts. They do not know why they are fighting. They are killing. And they do not know why.

    They have done some extraordinary acts. Their deeds go before them. But these wars are lies. They are lies. They deceived our entire nation with terrorism. They have gotten us to hand them our rights. Our Rights! Men died for those rights!

    September Eleventh was an inside job. They blew up a third building in broad daylight. Building 7.

    Your leaders betrayed you.

    You elected an aristocracy. They are beholden to special interests. They were brainwashed through the Council on Foreign Relations. Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one world banking system. They want to put computer chips in you.

    These men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate fascism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic.

    There is hope. BUT WE MUST TAKE OUR REPUBLIC BACK.
    I don't agree with everything that he said but I support his right to say it. To say we are living in a post-constitutional America is not a fallacy any longer. When you look at this, and the other things we are seeing in the news relating to drones, spying, wiretaps, control of the press, the imperial decisions our President has made, partisan use of the bureaucracy to attack dissenters, and all the rest, this is very chilling indeed.

    I am going to just say it right now... Every so often people on here question all the guests who are constantly reading our political forums here on TPG. Sometimes I wonder if there are "guests" on this very forum who are watching our conversations here as well. Could you imagine the FBI knocking on your door, asking about the views you expressed here? Arresting you? Is it a crazy idea? Not any more, apparently.

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    Re: Arrested for posting political views on Facebook.

    I can imagine that. Yes.

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    I'd answer the door naked with my pistol in my hand. Nobody wants to confront an armed naked man.

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    Did he make threats to the POTUS?

    If so, the Secret Service or FBI had every right to investigate.

    Saying I want to kill/injure the POTUS is not a valid political position.

    And him being a former marine is irrelevant and worthless to the discussion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigHub View Post
    I'd answer the door naked with my pistol in my hand. Nobody wants to confront an armed naked man.

    Funny stuff :)

    Don't know why, but you reminded me of this: http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=767


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    Sounds a little manifesto-y to me...

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    Re: Arrested for posting political views on Facebook.

    Quote Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005 View Post
    Did he make threats to the POTUS?

    If so, the Secret Service or FBI had every right to investigate.

    Saying I want to kill/injure the POTUS is not a valid political position.

    And him being a former marine is irrelevant and worthless to the discussion.
    Nope. No threats to anyone. He did post his home address on his page in a post and said if anyone had a problem with what he was saying they knew where to find him. I guess they showed him, eh? :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanati8869 View Post
    Sounds a little manifesto-y to me...
    I dunno, I've seen plenty of stuff like this out there. Plus the guy literally said force wasn't the way to win in his big speech.

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    Re: Arrested for posting political views on Facebook.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanati8869 View Post
    Sounds a little manifesto-y to me...
    Personally that plus quoting about being here to sever heads seems fair enough reason for the FBI to have some concerns. Song lyrics or not.


    Also, going a bit red herring here, but I did like the mention of rights, then he complains he wasn't read his miranda rights (which they don't have to do). It just gives me a bit of a laugh when people complain about trampling of rights etc. etc. yet show ignorance about some rights.

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