Still think Sarah Palin is an idiot? Well, maybe not so much...

**deathgodusmc** · 08-07-13, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

And as the presiding officer of the Senate, he only casts a tie breaking vote. He has an absolutely no role in crafting legislation.

You may want to double check your info. Last i knew any person in that loop has the ability to submit a bill for passage into law. Plus being the tie breaker also kind of means he can be the one directly effecting laws.

So you standing by the vice president doesn't make laws?

**triggerhappy2005** · 08-07-13, 05:54 PM

He has no role in crafting legislation.

You will argue a technicality but you're still wrong.

But if you care to show any instance that he did so as presiding officer of he Senate, go right ahead.

**deathgodusmc** · 08-07-13, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

He has no role in crafting legislation.

You will argue a technicality but you're still wrong.

But if you care to show any instance that he did so as presiding officer of he Senate, go right ahead.

Your only lying to yourself. Do i need to even bring up who the lead was in crafting the new gun laws requested by Obama After the school shooting? Or is that a technicality as well?

**HeavyG** · 08-07-13, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Yes when it comes to the people that are suppose to be making laws that effect everyone else in the country. Emotions should be checked at the door.

Spoken like a true Marine... but I disagree 100%. I believe everything we do involves emotion, even if at the slightest levels, and I think it is the driver behind why we do the things we do. To have emotions is to be human. I prefer humans to drones when it comes to politics.

I would say George Bush invading Afghanistan and Iraq was an emotional response. The U.S. entering the war after the attack on Pearl Harbor was an emotional response. Lives were lost. The country was mourning. We wanted justice. That is a perfect example of emotions at their best.

**deathgodusmc** · 08-07-13, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by HeavyG

Spoken like a true Marine... but I disagree 100%. I believe everything we do involves emotion, even if at the slightest levels, and I think it is the driver behind why we do the things we do. To have emotions is to be human. I prefer humans to drones when it comes to politics.

I would say George Bush invading Afghanistan and Iraq was an emotional response. The U.S. entering the war after the attack on Pearl Harbor was an emotional response. Lives were lost. The country was mourning. We wanted justice. That is a perfect example of emotions at their best.

To your example i would have to agree. However emotion is where bad decisions come from but we dont have to agree. I see no use for emotion when it comes to reading and writing laws.

**SpecOpsScott** · 08-07-13, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Your only lying to yourself. Do i need to even bring up who the lead was in crafting the new gun laws requested by Obama After the school shooting? Or is that a technicality as well?

A highly emotional response i might add.

**deputyfestus** · 08-07-13, 06:50 PM

Luckily our ancestors had some.

**-Lazarus-** · 08-07-13, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

The fact is Laz, you only get one chance to make a first impression....and Palin flubbed her first several. Maybe it's just me, but I think seeing Russia from your house gives you foreign relations experience in the same way that watching Law and Order teaches you how to be a cop and/or lawyer. Her appearance to the American public is always going to be influenced by that statement and the dozens of statements like it.

I realize Palin said things that weren't dumb, just like Bachman occasionally said things that weren't batshit crazy, but her smart remarks were FAR outnumbered by her dumb comments.

~Morningfrost

Plain NEVER SAID she could see Russia from her house. That was in an SNL skit attacking Palin. This is the kind of shit I'm talking about when it comes to being aware of he facts. Not to attack you Frost but jeez.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/seealaska.asp

**Nuckle** · 08-07-13, 11:20 PM

Palin was a dingbat no doubt but I also believe that she has a greater love for what this country should be than many of you combined.

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