Still think Sarah Palin is an idiot? Well, maybe not so much...

**Morningfrost** · 08-08-13, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by SpecOpsScott

You get it better than most that are not totally on board with the Tea Party. I see them as a party that is made of strict Constitutionalists, at least as the common thread. Second to that would be responsible taxing and spending. Somewhere along the line those messages were turned into "No taxes and a Bible in every hand.... oh, and white people only". I wonder how that happened?

Frost, you are the closest one so far to "getting it". It is a founders party of sorts, but we understand things are not as they were in the nations infancy.

I may not agree with their view, but I DO understand. I understand the idyllic view of certain parts of our past, of apple pie and baseball....but times are always changing, and to survive one has to roll with the punches, so to speak. Just because something worked 30 or 50 or 200 years ago doesn't mean it would work today....and unfortunately our Constitution is always WAY behind the times in terms of keeping up with the modern world. So are a huge portion of laws as well. Our government (and lawmakers over the years) just haven't been very good at adapting to changes in the world....but that doesn't mean they should stop trying. And ultimately, that's what I don't agree with when it comes to the Constitutionalists, because you can never make things the way they were before. Those times are gone, and going back to how things were done back then, to me at least, would feel like the proverbial one step forward but two steps back.

~Morningfrost

**deathgodusmc** · 08-08-13, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

This lady isn't why this was brought up. It started with DG saying he doesn't like hat Biden is so emotional and is involved with crafting legislation as President of the Senate. This video proves that wrong. So that makes what you said stupid and by default you as well.

So you dont know what the vice president does and you cant keep order of whats being said? wow

**SpecOpsScott** · 08-08-13, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Morningfrost

I may not agree with their view, but I DO understand. I understand the idyllic view of certain parts of our past, of apple pie and baseball....but times are always changing, and to survive one has to roll with the punches, so to speak. Just because something worked 30 or 50 or 200 years ago doesn't mean it would work today....and unfortunately our Constitution is always WAY behind the times in terms of keeping up with the modern world. So are a huge portion of laws as well. Our government (and lawmakers over the years) just haven't been very good at adapting to changes in the world....but that doesn't mean they should stop trying. And ultimately, that's what I don't agree with when it comes to the Constitutionalists, because you can never make things the way they were before. Those times are gone, and going back to how things were done back then, to me at least, would feel like the proverbial one step forward but two steps back.

~Morningfrost

And where i differ from both points of view is that i think the Constitution is entirely adaptable to modern times. Sure it seems way behind, but we live in a world of instant gratification. I'm glad we have the Constitution to slow us down and force us to do it right, whatever the cause may be.

**Morningfrost** · 08-09-13, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by SpecOpsScott

And where i differ from both points of view is that i think the Constitution is entirely adaptable to modern times. Sure it seems way behind, but we live in a world of instant gratification. I'm glad we have the Constitution to slow us down and force us to do it right, whatever the cause may be.

The Constitution IS adaptable to modern times, but I have no faith in our politicians to be able to do so. They all seem to live about 10+ years in the past. Shit, some still haven't seen the turn of the millennium.

~Morningfrost

**Hocus Pocus** · 08-09-13, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

He's one step above being a drooling retard and two above driving a chair with his chin wearing a helmet. Intellectual does not fit in his profile anywhere.

Man that'd hilarious.

Hold up though shouldn't palin be in the babe thread? She's a cougar.