Here we go again - GOP takes aim at ACA, ties to debt ceiling

**-Lazarus-** · 09-18-13, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by AetheLove

I agree with the merry-go-round, but what were you thinking would be likely to change?

The President ran on a platform that included health-care reform very much like the ACA. He won. The election obviously wasn't simply a referendum on health care, but it's hard to argue that any of the voters were duped.

The Congress passed the ACA. There was plenty of opportunity for debate. Everyone had lots of time to make their case. Shit, the debate has been going on since at least '92.

The Supreme Court affirmed it as law.

Some Republicans feel there is a political advantage to continuing this fight. I don't see that changing any time soon.

Cheers,

AetheLove

I think the political dividends may pay off in the next Presidential election year.

**triggerhappy2005** · 09-18-13, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I think the political dividends may pay off in the next Presidential election year.

You don't want to go there.

Remember what happened that last election where you had it all figured out?

**deathgodusmc** · 09-18-13, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by iravedic

The former - this is IMHO a great example of pissing into the wind. We all get it - the GOP hates the ACA - but fuck, look at it practically for a fraction of a second, this is not productive there is zero chance Obama and the DEM's will cave. This is why Congress has such a great approval rating.

The author stating the obvious:

I think your missing the point. The dems dont have to cave. All they have to do is keep getting it pushed and the next guy will most likely shit can it.

**deathgodusmc** · 09-18-13, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by AetheLove

The Supreme Court affirmed it as law.

Some Republicans feel there is a political advantage to continuing this fight. I don't see that changing any time soon.

Cheers,

AetheLove

But that isnt what the supreme court did. All they did is say as of right now there is nothing unconstitutional about it and any judgement being made would have to be after it goes into effect. All they did was give an answer of yes to both sides saying until a fine is issued nothing can be done. Which means if it ever actually goes into effect it will be in another lawsuit on april 16th.

**SmokenScion** · 09-18-13, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

But that isnt what the supreme court did. All they did is say as of right now there is nothing unconstitutional about it and any judgement being made would have to be after it goes into effect. All they did was give an answer of yes to both sides saying until a fine is issued nothing can be done. Which means if it ever actually goes into effect it will be in another lawsuit on april 16th.

But it's a Fine, not a tax.

**-Lazarus-** · 09-18-13, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

I think the political dividends may pay off in the next Presidential election year.

Sorry, should have said that I think the GOP thinks that.

**SmokenScion** · 09-18-13, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

Sorry, should have said that I think the GOP thinks that.

Politicians think Political Dividends will line their pockets nicely, as well as light their cigars.

**deathgodusmc** · 09-18-13, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by SmokenScion

But it's a Fine, not a tax.

So they say now. That isnt how it started and odds are if it ends up back in court im gonna go out on a limb and say that topic isnt done yet.

**Gumby** · 09-18-13, 10:28 PM

I don't like the ACA. But holding the budget/economy hostage in an effort to defund (which will ultimately fail) it is even worse so good job GOP.

I think this is the plan of the both parties anyway. They are not pro anything. They are just anti solution to everything unless the can get credit for it. Deadlock in DC seems to be pretty good for the people they really represent.

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