Shutdown

**Warprosper** · 10-01-13, 12:56 PM

So who's affected by this? What are your thoughts?

Personally, I think it's completely irresponsible on both sides of the system, and if they can't get their shit squared away, they don't need to be paid.

**triggerhappy2005** · 10-01-13, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

So who's affected by this? What are your thoughts?

Personally, I think it's completely irresponsible on both sides of the system, and if they can't get their shit squared away, they don't need to be paid.

I know this will sound partisan but how are the Dems at fault here?

**SpecOpsScott** · 10-01-13, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

I know this will sound partisan but how are the Dems at fault here?

Unless i missed something, the Repubs once again offered compromise and the Dems once again said go fuck yourself. Both sides need to try to find common ground and go from there.

Oh, and they came up with this piece of shit plan in the first place.

**Warprosper** · 10-01-13, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

I know this will sound partisan but how are the Dems at fault here?

Because it takes 2 to tango.. They're in bed with the same people... It's just a different position.

**triggerhappy2005** · 10-01-13, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Warprosper

Because it takes 2 to tango.. They're in bed with the same people... It's just a different position.

Be specific. Catchphrases won't work here. What specifically is that the Dems are doing that is causing this problem?

**Warprosper** · 10-01-13, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Be specific. Catchphrases won't work here. What specifically is that the Dems are doing that is causing this problem?

They're all at fault because neither of them pressed the issues in a timely fashion. The dems knew the reps wouldn't buy it and refused to negotiate then and they refuse to negotiate now. Regardless of which one of them is right, it's irresponsible to let it come to this.

**iravedic** · 10-01-13, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Be specific. Catchphrases won't work here. What specifically is that the Dems are doing that is causing this problem?

They have done a piss poor job explaining their position to the public, and have been wholly unpersuasive in their dealings with the GOP. In general they have done a shitty job of leading - granted that they have to deal with a group of 4 year-olds - but still I expected more. Same goes for the moderate members of the GOP, they are too worried about keeping their jobs to actually do them.

What if the tables were turned??

**CivilWars** · 10-01-13, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Be specific. Catchphrases won't work here. What specifically is that the Dems are doing that is causing this problem?

For starters they underestimated at best, or flat out lied at worst, about the impact of Obamacare, and now that the truth is starting to come out they refuse to compromise on it just like the Reps. If you think only one side is to blame, regardless of which side you choose, then you(the general sense, not just Trigger) are truly naive.