Thread: Violence

Originally Posted by dex71

Except that it doesn't work. Look at Chicago. HEAVY restrictions on handguns, and they are one of the most violent cities in terms of handguns.

It's not the hammer that built the house. It's the person swinging it.

It doesn't work in Chicago because they aren't restricted/banned around Chicago. Even if they were restricted/banned in Illinois, it wouldn't work because they weren't restricted/banned around Illinois. It's why I don't support gun bans, they won't work if the surrounding areas also don't ban guns (and federally, we have way too many guns now to prevent black markets).

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

It doesn't work in Chicago because they aren't restricted/banned around Chicago. Even if they were restricted/banned in Illinois, it wouldn't work because they weren't restricted/banned around Illinois. It's why I don't support gun bans, they won't work if the surrounding areas also don't ban guns (and federally, we have way too many guns now to prevent black markets).

They don't work because gangs don't follow them. You could clear every last gun from the 5 state area, and gangs would still be killing each other with guns.

And let's, just for the sake of discussion, pretend that we could get evey gun out of the hands of the gangs. We would have drive-by archery hits, stabbings and stonings. Point being that murders would still be happening because we didn't address the cause of the problem, only the tools being used. Guns don't kill people just like hammers don't build houses and forks don't make people fat.

Back to the OP.

How do we legislate away human behavior and the logic behind it?

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

Back to the OP.

How do we legislate away human behavior and the logic behind it?

Why is legislation the primary answer? Has it ever worked?

Originally Posted by dex71

Why is legislation the primary answer? Has it ever worked?

So what vehicle was this guy referring to when making the change?

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

So what vehicle was this guy referring to when making the change?

You were the one who brought up legislation.

Originally Posted by dex71

You were the one who brought up legislation.

Edit:

He refers to 'policy makers' which I can only assume are politicians. He goes on to say 'develop policy' which I can only assume is legislation.

What else do think that could mean, Dex?

Originally Posted by dex71

We would have drive-by archery hits, stabbings and stonings.

Don't forget about your Amish driveby...

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