Thread: Your Favorite Director at it again.

Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

You are correct to say that Americans would have an issue with the rigidity of that system. Because of course they would. "Getting a job" is not the only purpose of an education. We don't pass through the education system with the sole purpose of becoming good little earners for the state. Setting someone's career path as early as middle school would be ultimately detrimental to American society in general, as it would ultimately reinforce and promote class rule within our system. The children of the haves and the children of the have nots would become even more separated and the class structure more rigid.

I continue to think this constant comparison we do between countries is potentially detrimental.

It's not based on the haves and have nots here. It's based on aptitude. A poor child with a talent is given the opportunity to develop that talent. Also I agree that an education is about more than getting a job. But shouldn't that be the primary concern?

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Originally Posted by -Lazarus-

You are correct to say that Americans would have an issue with the rigidity of that system. Because of course they would. "Getting a job" is not the only purpose of an education. We don't pass through the education system with the sole purpose of becoming good little earners for the state. Setting someone's career path as early as middle school would be ultimately detrimental to American society in general, as it would ultimately reinforce and promote class rule within our system. The children of the haves and the children of the have nots would become even more separated and the class structure more rigid.

I continue to think this constant comparison we do between countries is potentially detrimental.

Yet this doesn't happen in Germany thus eliminating the validity of your statement.

Germany has much less income disparity compared to the US.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Gumby

It works out great here for the Germans. The whole system has a synergy to it because the education system, the unions, the employers, and the government all take care of each other's needs. Their only problem seems to be getting the Turkish immigrants to play along. :-)

Just have the Turks learn football, could have a country of Ozil's (even though he is German, not an immigrant but ehhh)


In terms of education, I don't know about middle school as much but High school I could see the value in at least some skill training, and there is definitely an issue with teaching some people skills they don't have much use for (e.g. someone who wants to be a mechanic probably doesn't need to know how to write a college essay). Of course I also, personally, think highschool classes (besides trade stuff) should be all about critical thinking, not just "here are more facts, learn those facts." Elementary and middle can lay groundwork, then High School can start actually discussing, not just tests and regurgitating facts over and over. I can think of very few things that really had much impact or even worth remembering from High School, hell the classes I took at a CC that actually asked you to think had way more value then much of what I remember of High School classes.

Getting off-topic, but anyways maybe it is just me but I feel like thinking and applying brain power and discussing the why, hows, what do you thinks, etc. is worth way more and has better application then "Here is how to write a formulaic essay. Here is how to write a formulaic <blank>, here is some not very useful facts." With some trade skill learning as well, or job useful learning at least (Public speaking, communication, marketing, general business, hell accounting, etc. stuff that will help depending on field(s) interested in). Basically getting an AA(AS, AAS whatever) in high school, but with more critical thinking involved.