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02-06-14, 09:36 PM #11
Re: Closed due to paying customers.
Yeah go ahead and gloat that you're heartless and merciless, that impresses everyone...lol.
As for body odor...that is EVERYWHERE. You gonna ask everyone to leave an establishment because of it? Yeah, it's unpleasant ...but they have a right to be there as much as anyone else. Also, the video mentions nothing about compacity . They were kept out because the other non-homeless customers were complaining.
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02-06-14, 09:36 PM #12
Re: Closed due to paying customers.
Yes.
It sounds like there is a need for more shelters in the area. It's cold here too, and it is very dangerous to be out in it for prolonged periods. We have shelters, and when they fill, many more doors are opened. We have people who go on patrol to try and round up as many as they can find to get them in shelters when the temps get dangerous. A Mickey D's here wouldn't be put in that situation.
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02-06-14, 09:40 PM #13
Re: Closed due to paying customers.
The funny part is here (probably because its warm 350 days a year) the homeless shelters charge like 5 bucks. Thats kinda wrong but from what i understand of it is if 20 people stay it gets them 100 bucks which they can turn around and buy 900 bucks worth of food to feed the homeless. I do know when we get freeze warnings they do look for homeless to get them inside.
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02-06-14, 09:46 PM #14
Re: Closed due to paying customers.
Every city needs one of these people.
Mary’s Place | Sharing and Caring Hands
Mary Jo Copeland is as close to a Saint as I've ever seen. She helps people help themselves.
We also have a ton of shelters available here, as well as the patrols when the temps dip. This is a horrible place to be homeless during the Winter.
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02-06-14, 09:47 PM #15
Re: Closed due to paying customers.
Not gloating. Just explaining my position. If you cant handle it maybe you should move on.
Yes body odor is everywhere but your also leaving out on some its far far worse. Well you didn't really leave it out as much as pretend it isn't reality. Now as for rights no one has the right to be in a mcdonalds. Its a privately owned establishment which retains the RIGHT to refuse service to anyone.
So whats your point about non homeless complaining? That actually is their right. The homeless have the right to stink and the business has the right to kick them the fuck out for it. Instead of singling them out they kicked everyone out equally. So lets stop with "rights" until your willing to actually discuss what actually is a "right" because in reality mcdonlds doesn't just have the right to kick them out and the right to lock their doors but they also have the right to have them removed from the entire property because they feel like it.
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02-06-14, 10:01 PM #17
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Just checked and boulder has at least 36 homeless shelters in a city of 102k or 25.7 sq miles however you want to look at it. Philadelphia has 50 with 1.5 million or 142 sq miles. Relatively speaking boulder has out done itself with homeless shelters. I actually find that a bit surprising but for those needing a place out of the cold here ya go.
Homeless Shelters | Find Homeless Shelters | Homeless Shelter Search
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02-06-14, 10:50 PM #18Re: Closed due to paying customers.
I avoid the Boulder side whenever possible...I know over here on the other side of the city we've got several shelters..I volunteer pretty regularly with one of the larger groups...they've been stacked all winter...no idea how the Denver metro is as a whole though, although it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case everywhere.
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02-07-14, 12:13 AM #19
Re: Closed due to paying customers.
I don't volunteer anywhere nor do I really have a desire to do so. What I *do* is help someone whenever I can. DG is tired of people standing on corners asking for money... and they should get a job because they are out there... But let me tell you. When you don't have a fixed place to call home; or clean clothing; the means to get a haircut; or other things we tend to take for granted then it becomes quite the hurdle to do other simple things. Try getting a bank account, id, etc. And without ID, a bank account, an address to call home, or those other niceties like the ability to remain somewhat hygenic... There's not a lot of places that will give you a second look if you put in an application to work there. Nobody wants to take a chance on some smelly homeless guy with a three day growth of beard. Especially if they have other qualified people in the queue as well.
In the early nineties I ran a couple Aladdin's Castle arcades. In a college down (Normal, IL) I had college kids coming out of my ears trying to get jobs. And I had many regular customers. We had one guy that would come in stinking to high heaven most days. He would come in and spend fifty cents, play a couple games and leave. As turnover was high (college kids are dumbasses) one day I placed the help wanted sign out front and this person shows up at the office door asking for an application. I had him fill it out but I really wasn't too thrilled with the idea. I saw that his address he listed was a homeless shelter and was less thrilled. He asked every day for five days what the status was which was more than any of the college kids did so I agreed to interview him. We talked at length and I found out that every single day he was canvassing the area putting in applications and trying to get a job. ANY job. As soon as they found out he was homeless they would say the position was filled or that they weren't hiring even though they had a sign out saying that they were. He had been trying for MONTHS to get anything at all. He would occasionally get a lawn cutting job or two off of a local bulletin board which gave him a few bucks for lunch here and there and enough to play some video games when he was taking a break from his job search. I decided at that point that I needed to help him out. I could hire and fire but all new hires went through the district manager as a secondary. We also did background checks but basically the DM just wanted a copy of the application so he knew who was under his area. So I worked with the guy and we "faked" an address in town, we got him set up with a post office box for mail and to get his paycheck sent to him, faked up a clean background check (which I didn't do at all), etc. I spent a few bux for what he needed and I hired him.
He was one of the best employees I had at that location from that day until we closed that store down... a little... odoriferous on occasion, but after he got a few paychecks he bought himself a bicycle so he could get back and forth to work easier, and after a couple more he got himself set up in an efficiency apartment. Basically he pulled himself up and did just what Deathgod wanted him to do. But it sure as hell wasn't easy and it wasn't as simple as "get out there and get a job". It took someone like me that was willing to look past the homeless thing and give him a chance. I found out that he had a bit of a problem with anger at times but he did his job well and he knew he had a problem and kept it under check 99% of the time. I believe that likely his anger issues resulted in loss of job and eventually his homelessness.
So not only does being homeless make it problematic to GET a job but some have personal and medical issues might result in being homeless to begin with. Some of these people are so screwed up they couldn't hold down a job if their life depended on it. So these days, whenever I see a homeless person they get at least five bux from me. The more I have, the more I give. If I can buy games on steam and new monitors and tablets and toys, then I can afford to give a little back to people that don't have it. There is no reason I can eat to excess wherever and whenever I want, but ignore someone on the street that might not have eaten a decent meal in a week.
This McDonalds has the RIGHT to refuse service. They have the RIGHT to only accept drive-through orders. They also have the RIGHT to be jackasses. The last of which they are exercising to great effect.
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