Thread: Saw this... thought about some people i know....

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

Yea, I guess so...but really, what you´ve said so far are by far the simplest steps to start out with. That and I believe really harsh fines for companies found hiring illegal workers.

Don't forget that votes are on the line as well. Any talk of making it tough to be here for illegals automagically means that you hate brown people.

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

The winds of time can change things dramatically. Illegal immigration has gone back and forth for a long time. The populatity of closing the border completely is gaining steam. It may not be to long before those once radical ideas like mine become a common point of interest.

Indeed. Under Clinton money was easy to get, so no "white folk" wanted to do the shit jobs, so we opened the borders to get some cheap labor. Once those jobs became valuable again lots of people had an oh shit moment.

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Indeed. Under Clinton money was easy to get, so no "white folk" wanted to do the shit jobs, so we opened the borders to get some cheap labor. Once those jobs became valuable again lots of people had an oh shit moment.

It started even before Billy C.

Ronnie had the same problem. When people started flooding the border, rather than stop them, Ronnie granted mass amnesty. Not only did it not solve the problem, but it sent the message loud and clear that all one had to do was get here. We are paying for this mistake today, and rather than honestly address it, we are doubling down on the solutions that have been proven to not work.

I proposed making people that want to come into the U.S. work for it. These are people that don´t have the resources to get citizenship the normal way, if they did they´d go to the U.S. embassy.

I´m not saying, build state of the art facilities rivaling the MIT campus. I´m saying build really really really cheap ghettos and start using these people that are coming in to build the rest. The men that are crossing the borders are mostly construction workers and farmers. Have NPO´s manage these halfway houses and have international entities fund them (pay for the people managing these halfway houses). Make the men and women work and educate the kids that come. Put them to work too, I don´t mind that. I think it´s a better option than killing them. So make these people productive and make them pay their way into the U.S. with LABOR. Manual Labor. Train these people to become productive and not be a leech to the system when they DO get in for the rest of their lives.

Have them feed themselves with what they produce. I don´t know what can be grown down there. Beans seem to grow everywhere. Have them eat that.

See, like I said, it is just an idea, thinking out loud. But I don´t believe in giving anyone anything for free. Not one grain of rice.

Originally Posted by Xavsnipe

I proposed making people that want to come into the U.S. work for it. These are people that don´t have the resources to get citizenship the normal way, if they did they´d go to the U.S. embassy.

I´m not saying, build state of the art facilities rivaling the MIT campus. I´m saying build really really really cheap ghettos and start using these people that are coming in to build the rest. The men that are crossing the borders are mostly construction workers and farmers. Have NPO´s manage these halfway houses and have international entities fund them (pay for the people managing these halfway houses). Make the men and women work and educate the kids that come. Put them to work too, I don´t mind that. I think it´s a better option than killing them. So make these people productive and make them pay their way into the U.S. with LABOR. Manual Labor. Train these people to become productive and not be a leech to the system when they DO get in for the rest of their lives.

Have them feed themselves with what they produce. I don´t know what can be grown down there. Beans seem to grow everywhere. Have them eat that.

See, like I said, it is just an idea, thinking out loud. But I don´t believe in giving anyone anything for free. Not one grain of rice.

And I contend that you are going to need more money than they generate to buy the land, materials, etc, so that means you are indeed giving them things that they are not paying for. That is why you even said yourself you need NPOs and donations. If these individuals were capable of fully supporting themselves none of that would be necessary.

As for shooting/killing them I said that is the cheapest option, not the best option. I already stated make it hell for those living here, and you will see a reduced desire to get here.