Chicago Police may scrap entrance exam

**WorstPE** · 01-08-10, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

actually there are a few things that matter on the testing. The first question, is does it apply to on-the-job skills? 2nd is if it unfairly causes minorities to fail

Basically you can't make it so it rules out a certain group or race of people unless its something job related. Like having a test to show you can lift 40lb, when it isn't required as part of the job, thus discrimnating against the disabled, seniors etc. And it doesn't matter if its on purpose or not.

So if all the entry exam stuff etc. is testing skills required to properly do their job, then there is no reason to get rid of the tests. If it isn't, then they need to figure out a way to fix it, or they are going to loss some money due to a lawsuit.

here is the entrance testing face of ILEA (Indiana Law Enforcement Academy) http://www.in.gov/ilea/

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 13.5 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 24
300 Meter Run 82 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 21
1.5 Mile Run 18 Minutes 56 Seconds

As for the written, let me tell you this, after taking it 3 times thus far (passing it every time) it is VERY specific to skills needed on the job. There is reading comprehension (i.e reading about a scene, and trying to remember what it was you read about it), Facial recognition, and picture recognition.

The standards are fine. If they "cause a minority to fail" maybe that fucker should go back to school and get an education, or give up on the dream of being a police officer. Police officers are a breed within thier selfs, it has nothing to do with skin color, or who you are...it has to do with are you capable of dealing with the job, and being able to do it everyday. It takes a special personality to be a cop, and this I have learned through my pursuit of my bachelors in criminal law.

Those physical standards are a joke! I could be a police officer in Indiana right now with that testing.

And 18:56 is like a the min for a 35 year old female in the air force standard.

**Kraker Jak** · 01-08-10, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by WorstPE

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

actually there are a few things that matter on the testing. The first question, is does it apply to on-the-job skills? 2nd is if it unfairly causes minorities to fail

Basically you can't make it so it rules out a certain group or race of people unless its something job related. Like having a test to show you can lift 40lb, when it isn't required as part of the job, thus discrimnating against the disabled, seniors etc. And it doesn't matter if its on purpose or not.

So if all the entry exam stuff etc. is testing skills required to properly do their job, then there is no reason to get rid of the tests. If it isn't, then they need to figure out a way to fix it, or they are going to loss some money due to a lawsuit.

here is the entrance testing face of ILEA (Indiana Law Enforcement Academy) http://www.in.gov/ilea/

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 13.5 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 24
300 Meter Run 82 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 21
1.5 Mile Run 18 Minutes 56 Seconds

As for the written, let me tell you this, after taking it 3 times thus far (passing it every time) it is VERY specific to skills needed on the job. There is reading comprehension (i.e reading about a scene, and trying to remember what it was you read about it), Facial recognition, and picture recognition.

The standards are fine. If they "cause a minority to fail" maybe that fucker should go back to school and get an education, or give up on the dream of being a police officer. Police officers are a breed within thier selfs, it has nothing to do with skin color, or who you are...it has to do with are you capable of dealing with the job, and being able to do it everyday. It takes a special personality to be a cop, and this I have learned through my pursuit of my bachelors in criminal law.

Those physical standards are a joke! I could be a police officer in Indiana right now with that testing.

And 18:56 is like a the min for a 35 year old female in the air force standard.

Those are the ENTRANCE standards.....these are the exit standards (6 months of academy)

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 16 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 29
300 Meter Run 71 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 25
1.5 Mile Run 16 Minutes 28 Seconds

You want to know what is a joke?

http://recruiting.dallaspolice.net/i...=9531&subnav=0

EVENT
HOW PERFORMED
MINIMUM SCORE

VERTICAL LEAP
Stand feet together, parallel and adjacent to the mark on the ground below the vertical leap stand. Reach up as high as you can with your inside arm marking the top of that reach.
Then, leaving at least one foot stationary, leap as high as you can upwards and make a second mark.
The distance between the two marks is your score. Maximum of 3 attempts or until minimum score is achieved or exceeded.
6.5 INCHES

REST PERIOD
MINIMUM SCORE

BENCH PRESS
Start lying on back on bench, with your feet flat on the floor (if your feet do not reach the floor, use a box)
With a positive grip, use the markings on the bar to evenly spread your hands from the center of the bar
On the command “LIFT,” push the weight up to arms length exhaling as you perform the movement

1
REPETITION

(0.56 of BODY WEIGHT)

REST PERIOD
MAXIMUM TIME

1 MINUTE OF SIT-UPS
Start lying on back, knees bent, heels flat on the floor, fingers interlocked behind your head. A partner will hold your feet securely down.
On the command “BEGIN” subject performs a sit-up by coming to the “UP” position making your elbows touch the tops of your knee with your fingers remaining interlocked behind your head.
When subject returns to down position (shoulder blades touch mat) counts as 1 repetition.

14 REPETITIONS

REST PERIOD
MINIMUM SCORE

ILLINOIS SHUTTLE RUN
Start in the prone position to the left of the first cone with the tips of the fingers behind the starting line
On the command “GO,” stand up and sprint to the forward line, make a left turn around the first cone, then zigzag in a figure eight fashion around the four cones and zigzag back to the start line
Turn left around the first cone and sprint to the forward line and back one more time

24.9

SECONDS

REST PERIOD
MAXIMUM TIME

300 METER RUN
On measured road or track
1 MINUTE &
50 SECONDS

REST PERIOD
MINIMUM SCORE

1 MINUTE OF PUSH-UPS
Subject’s hands are placed shoulder width apart on the ground fingers pointing forward.
An assistant will place their fist on the floor, dissecting a line that extends between the thumbs of the subject’s hands.
Starting from the up position, keeping their back straight, subject lowers themselves until their chest touches the assistants fist, then return to the up position. This counts as 1 repetition.
4
REPETITIONS

REST PERIOD
MAXIMUM TIME

1.5 MILE RUN
On measured road or track
19 MINUTES &
09 SECONDS

**~~hawgballs~~** · 01-08-10, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Blakeman

Thread is about the media hyping something on a slow news day because it was 'considered' then Hawg going on and on about how nobody knows how fucked up Chicago is.

I'm glad I'm a yokel, it is easy to keep up with my small metro area.

No, not "nobody". Just Dex........... That and Sonic's attempt at derail.

**asianator365** · 01-08-10, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Originally Posted by WorstPE

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

actually there are a few things that matter on the testing. The first question, is does it apply to on-the-job skills? 2nd is if it unfairly causes minorities to fail

Basically you can't make it so it rules out a certain group or race of people unless its something job related. Like having a test to show you can lift 40lb, when it isn't required as part of the job, thus discrimnating against the disabled, seniors etc. And it doesn't matter if its on purpose or not.

So if all the entry exam stuff etc. is testing skills required to properly do their job, then there is no reason to get rid of the tests. If it isn't, then they need to figure out a way to fix it, or they are going to loss some money due to a lawsuit.

here is the entrance testing face of ILEA (Indiana Law Enforcement Academy) http://www.in.gov/ilea/

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 13.5 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 24
300 Meter Run 82 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 21
1.5 Mile Run 18 Minutes 56 Seconds

As for the written, let me tell you this, after taking it 3 times thus far (passing it every time) it is VERY specific to skills needed on the job. There is reading comprehension (i.e reading about a scene, and trying to remember what it was you read about it), Facial recognition, and picture recognition.

The standards are fine. If they "cause a minority to fail" maybe that fucker should go back to school and get an education, or give up on the dream of being a police officer. Police officers are a breed within thier selfs, it has nothing to do with skin color, or who you are...it has to do with are you capable of dealing with the job, and being able to do it everyday. It takes a special personality to be a cop, and this I have learned through my pursuit of my bachelors in criminal law.

Those physical standards are a joke! I could be a police officer in Indiana right now with that testing.

And 18:56 is like a the min for a 35 year old female in the air force standard.

Those are the ENTRANCE standards.....these are the exit standards (6 months of academy)

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 16 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 29
300 Meter Run 71 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 25
1.5 Mile Run 16 Minutes 28 Seconds

You want to know what is a joke?

http://recruiting.dallaspolice.net/i...=9531&subnav=0

EVENT
HOW PERFORMED
MINIMUM SCORE

VERTICAL LEAP
Stand feet together, parallel and adjacent to the mark on the ground below the vertical leap stand. Reach up as high as you can with your inside arm marking the top of that reach.
Then, leaving at least one foot stationary, leap as high as you can upwards and make a second mark.
The distance between the two marks is your score. Maximum of 3 attempts or until minimum score is achieved or exceeded.
6.5 INCHES

REST PERIOD
MINIMUM SCORE

BENCH PRESS
Start lying on back on bench, with your feet flat on the floor (if your feet do not reach the floor, use a box)
With a positive grip, use the markings on the bar to evenly spread your hands from the center of the bar
On the command “LIFT,” push the weight up to arms length exhaling as you perform the movement

1
REPETITION

(0.56 of BODY WEIGHT)

REST PERIOD
MAXIMUM TIME

1 MINUTE OF SIT-UPS
Start lying on back, knees bent, heels flat on the floor, fingers interlocked behind your head. A partner will hold your feet securely down.
On the command “BEGIN” subject performs a sit-up by coming to the “UP” position making your elbows touch the tops of your knee with your fingers remaining interlocked behind your head.
When subject returns to down position (shoulder blades touch mat) counts as 1 repetition.

14 REPETITIONS

REST PERIOD
MINIMUM SCORE

ILLINOIS SHUTTLE RUN
Start in the prone position to the left of the first cone with the tips of the fingers behind the starting line
On the command “GO,” stand up and sprint to the forward line, make a left turn around the first cone, then zigzag in a figure eight fashion around the four cones and zigzag back to the start line
Turn left around the first cone and sprint to the forward line and back one more time

24.9

SECONDS

REST PERIOD
MAXIMUM TIME

300 METER RUN
On measured road or track
1 MINUTE &
50 SECONDS

REST PERIOD
MINIMUM SCORE

1 MINUTE OF PUSH-UPS
Subject’s hands are placed shoulder width apart on the ground fingers pointing forward.
An assistant will place their fist on the floor, dissecting a line that extends between the thumbs of the subject’s hands.
Starting from the up position, keeping their back straight, subject lowers themselves until their chest touches the assistants fist, then return to the up position. This counts as 1 repetition.
4
REPETITIONS

REST PERIOD
MAXIMUM TIME

1.5 MILE RUN
On measured road or track
19 MINUTES &
09 SECONDS

I apologize to everyone in advance that I am feeling a little lazy right now and didn't want to trim down the quote. Now on to the comment:

Holy crap Kraker!!! For a second I thought that the exit standards said that you had to run a mile and a half in 16 seconds! LOL. FAIL.

**WorstPE** · 01-08-10, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Originally Posted by WorstPE

Originally Posted by Kraker Jak

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

actually there are a few things that matter on the testing. The first question, is does it apply to on-the-job skills? 2nd is if it unfairly causes minorities to fail

Basically you can't make it so it rules out a certain group or race of people unless its something job related. Like having a test to show you can lift 40lb, when it isn't required as part of the job, thus discrimnating against the disabled, seniors etc. And it doesn't matter if its on purpose or not.

So if all the entry exam stuff etc. is testing skills required to properly do their job, then there is no reason to get rid of the tests. If it isn't, then they need to figure out a way to fix it, or they are going to loss some money due to a lawsuit.

here is the entrance testing face of ILEA (Indiana Law Enforcement Academy) http://www.in.gov/ilea/

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 13.5 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 24
300 Meter Run 82 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 21
1.5 Mile Run 18 Minutes 56 Seconds

As for the written, let me tell you this, after taking it 3 times thus far (passing it every time) it is VERY specific to skills needed on the job. There is reading comprehension (i.e reading about a scene, and trying to remember what it was you read about it), Facial recognition, and picture recognition.

The standards are fine. If they "cause a minority to fail" maybe that fucker should go back to school and get an education, or give up on the dream of being a police officer. Police officers are a breed within thier selfs, it has nothing to do with skin color, or who you are...it has to do with are you capable of dealing with the job, and being able to do it everyday. It takes a special personality to be a cop, and this I have learned through my pursuit of my bachelors in criminal law.

Those physical standards are a joke! I could be a police officer in Indiana right now with that testing.

And 18:56 is like a the min for a 35 year old female in the air force standard.

Those are the ENTRANCE standards.....these are the exit standards (6 months of academy)

Test Standard
Vertical Jump 16 Inches
One Minute Sit-ups 29
300 Meter Run 71 Seconds
Maximum Push-ups 25
1.5 Mile Run 16 Minutes 28 Seconds

Those are still a joke.