Texas Board of Education and the Re-writing of American History

**MuadDib** · 02-15-10, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by GReYVee

Originally Posted by flame

Crap? read the article. They are putting in historical documents that reference a creator/god. They may be adding more than needed, but there is truth to what they say. Many historical documents refer to expanding christian faith. Its not crap its history, you may not believe what the people before you did, but religion played a part in the founding of america. The BOE may be trying to over emphasize this role but it cannot be discounted simply because some dont believe. When learning about egypt or india or south america do you plug your ears because they have beliefs in things you do not?

No I do not. It is certainly okay to explain the motives behind cultures, especially during the evolution of a nation. But to say this country was founded solely on the principles of Christianity is comletely wrong. And the representatives of this conference mostly do exactly that. They want to bring christianity back into our history books. Thats fine! But do not lay it out as if it is princle cause of this nation.

+1. And that's coming from a raging born again Christian.

**Potemkine** · 02-15-10, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by GReYVee

Originally Posted by flame

Crap? read the article. They are putting in historical documents that reference a creator/god. They may be adding more than needed, but there is truth to what they say. Many historical documents refer to expanding christian faith. Its not crap its history, you may not believe what the people before you did, but religion played a part in the founding of america. The BOE may be trying to over emphasize this role but it cannot be discounted simply because some dont believe. When learning about egypt or india or south america do you plug your ears because they have beliefs in things you do not?

No I do not. It is certainly okay to explain the motives behind cultures, especially during the evolution of a nation. But to say this country was founded solely on the principles of Christianity is comletely wrong. And the representatives of this conference mostly do exactly that. They want to bring christianity back into our history books. Thats fine! But do not lay it out as if it is princle cause of this nation.

+2

Treat it as if we were learning about the Greco-Roman mythology, or Ancient Egypt.

**Zer0-** · 02-15-10, 01:45 AM

There is no point in discussing this. You can huff and puff and get your panties in a wad but its not going to change what the BOE does. Well i guess this discussion helps your post counts...that's about it

lol

**MuadDib** · 02-15-10, 01:49 AM

True, but then again, people love to whine, I guess I'm one of those people too

**Potemkine** · 02-15-10, 01:54 AM

For the record, its not set in stone so to speak. I'm not totally sure that these measures have passed, but are things that a certain group on the BoE WANT to get passed.

**SOPEK** · 02-15-10, 01:55 AM

I am against this because there is FAR less evidence that supports the notion of the American War of Independence and the founding of America was Christian based, than for the political/economic reasons.

The one thing that underlies the entire program of the nation’s Christian conservative activists is, naturally, religion. But it isn’t merely the case that their Christian orientation shapes their opinions on gay marriage, abortion and government spending. More elementally, they hold that the United States was founded by devout Christians and according to biblical precepts. This belief provides what they consider not only a theological but also, ultimately, a judicial grounding to their positions on social questions.

I think this says it all.

You must understand what religion is, it’s not just about preaching and converting. It’s about a person’s ethics-morals-principles.

**Cainun** · 02-15-10, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by GReYVee

Originally Posted by flame

Crap? read the article. They are putting in historical documents that reference a creator/god. They may be adding more than needed, but there is truth to what they say. Many historical documents refer to expanding christian faith. Its not crap its history, you may not believe what the people before you did, but religion played a part in the founding of america. The BOE may be trying to over emphasize this role but it cannot be discounted simply because some dont believe. When learning about egypt or india or south america do you plug your ears because they have beliefs in things you do not?

No I do not. It is certainly okay to explain the motives behind cultures, especially during the evolution of a nation. But to say this country was founded solely on the principles of Christianity is comletely wrong. And the representatives of this conference mostly do exactly that. They want to bring christianity back into our history books. Thats fine! But do not lay it out as if it is princle cause of this nation.

No shit, keep it to the facts and not a subtle indoctrination into the Christian Faith. Combine Youth with Patriotism, and claim Christianity is the cause of the founding of our nation and we'll see nothing but mislead, brainwashed kids with a horrible misinterpretation of American History. This is disgustingly manipulative on so many fronts...

**Kraker Jak** · 02-15-10, 06:18 AM

This is pretty funny...

Didn't the state of texas gain it's independence from mexico? Which is catholic?

**~~hawgballs~~** · 02-15-10, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by SOPEK

I am against this because there is FAR less evidence that supports the notion of the American War of Independence and the founding of America was Christian based, than for the political/economic reasons.

The one thing that underlies the entire program of the nation’s Christian conservative activists is, naturally, religion. But it isn’t merely the case that their Christian orientation shapes their opinions on gay marriage, abortion and government spending. More elementally, they hold that the United States was founded by devout Christians and according to biblical precepts. This belief provides what they consider not only a theological but also, ultimately, a judicial grounding to their positions on social questions.

I think this says it all.

You must understand what religion is, it’s not just about preaching and converting. It’s about a person’s ethics-morals-principles.

.........And how they can force others to believe the crap that they believe.