Thread: Creationism/Intelligent Design

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Right, but science can't disprove the supernatural, so you can't disprove god. You also can't disprove Zeus, the easter bunny, or the omnipotent purple unicorn under my bed. They're all equally "not disproven" and should be given equal respect by the scientific community.

The difference is, generally accepted theories aren't theories that simply aren't disproven. They are established because of facts that support that theory, then tested rigorously in attempts to disprove them.

Originally Posted by w4jchosen

And are you implying that you saw me make that statement anywhere in my post? Nothing Trigger just seeing if I could get you to ask a question like you always do when someone makes a statement. Theoryi tested. It worked. Science at it's best.

You stated in you post that the scientific community studies intelligent design. From that statement, one could only discern that they must consider it a valid theory. Otherwise, why would they study it?

Or did you just make that up in order to lend false credibility to id/creationism?

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Right, well, ID isn't even close to being a theory, they don't even have a testable hypothesis.

exactly. until creationism comes up with something that is measurable and testable, it's not science. science is the action of measuring and testing theories to 'evolve' better and better theories, that's all it is. science is NOT simply creating theories, that's only 1 step in the process.

if you can't create a theory that is measurable and testable, then it's not part of the scientific process. teaching creationism in science class is like teaching cultural acceptance in math class. they're simply different topics.

until the religious world can produce a measurable and testable theory, the debate about it being science is really a colossal waste of time.

It's all just Magic

Originally Posted by Cleric

People will always have there opinions, regardless of what evidence, theory, or hypothesis you throw at them. To be perfectly honest, i was a die hard Catholic until a few years ago. I'm still open to the aspect of religion because, i feel, it allows people to search for the divine and the answers to everything, while giving them something to believe in. Schools should look at and teach both aspects of this equation, being that none have truly been proven as fact.

That's the whole point, Cleric. The theory of evolution is a testable theory whereas id/creationism are not testable theories, therefor not in the same equation. So why should they be taught in a science class?

In church, sure.