Terrorist in New York sentenced to Life in Prison

**deathgodusmc** · 10-08-10, 06:03 PM

If they are captured on foriegn soil the rule until lately has always been they go before a military tribunal because thats what the UN stated was the fair way to go. Of which that tribunal could be held anywhere in the world.

Seeing as the bill of rights is a contract between the government and the citizens it doesn't take much thought to figure out that if you are not governed by the US then those rules do not apply to you. There has already been a group formed and declarations made to address those of foriegn nationality being confronted by those of a different nation. Its called the United Nations and they have all their own rules on how to play nice with others.

**Muqtar SGT_Clintok** · 10-11-10, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Muqtar SGT_Clintok

Different case, same concept.

Judge bars key witness from Gitmo detainee's trial - Yahoo! News

NEW YORK – The judge in the first civilian trial of a Guantanamo Bay detainee barred the prosecution's star witness Wednesday from testifying, dealing a major setback to the government's effort to build criminal cases with evidence obtained through harsh CIA interrogations overseas.

The ruling stunned prosecutors, who asked for and received an immediate delay in the case while they decide whether to appeal. It also re-energized the debate over whether terrorism suspects captured overseas should be prosecuted in civilian courts and whether the American justice system is up to the task.

Michael Farkas, a former Army judge advocate and now a civilian attorney, said the ruling shows why those backing military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees contend that "civilian criminal courts are no place for war criminals." He said the military rules of evidence do not give defendants some of the protections they are afforded in the civilian justice system.

"In a military tribunal, this witness would not have been precluded," Farkas said.

And our fearless leader will not appeal the decision to throw the witness out.

Gov't won't appeal decision to ban witness in NY

This is precisely why military tribunals are necessary and yet another demonstration of the incompetence of this administration.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 10-18-10, 09:23 AM

I have read nio news as to whether Hussain Abebe has been released. How is it a "demonstration of the incompetence of this administration"?

**Red_Lizard2** · 10-18-10, 09:03 PM

From your article (the yahoo one)

He said the Military Commission Rules of Evidence preclude or restrict the use of "statements obtained by torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment," and evidence derived therefrom, and could require exclusion of Abebe's testimony.