"South celebrates Civil War, largely without slaves"

**WickedTribe** · 11-30-10, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Consultant

Sure, but they continued to profit from slavery, they just out-sourced it to the tobacco and cotton centric agrarian states of the south (including Maryland). It's a convenient position...90%+ of slave owners were below the Mason Dixon line in 1790 but the north and the federal government still collected taxes and trade tariffs produced by slave owners. Slave ships came into northern ports where slaves were transferred and shipped off to southern ports - AFTER slavery was outlawed in the north.

The nation as a whole, was complacent. To sit in the ivory tower of the north and speak disparagingly about the south's slavery problem is willfully ignorant. At least, that's my opinion. Slavery was and is F'ed up and indefensible. No denying that.

Come on, "Ivory Tower?" I expect better from you.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-30-10, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Massachusetts burned witches at one point in history too, maybe you should bring that in. Note, though, that we don't celebrate those witch burnings, and we don't try to disguise them as something more palatable.

Maybe you ought to get a couple of diehard whack-jobs to do a "witch burning" re-enactment, just be sure to ignore the fact that people were called witches and killed that couldn't cast a spell or concoct a bedeviling brew....

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-30-10, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Come on, "Ivory Tower?" I expect better from you.

Do you really?

**DJ Ms. White** · 11-30-10, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by hawgballs

Maybe you ought to get a couple of diehard whack-jobs to do a "witch burning" re-enactment, just be sure to ignore the fact that people were called witches and killed that couldn't cast a spell or concoct a bedeviling brew....

But witches do exist! I read it in Harry Potter. We just don't notice them because we're muggles!

**Arreo** · 11-30-10, 09:14 AM

Didn't Mass just have a witch burning? Oh wait... that was the November election....

(I know, tastless joke.

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**Consultant** · 11-30-10, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Come on, "Ivory Tower?" I expect better from you.

Of my whole post you pull out one colloquialism and find trouble with that? Fine...to sit ~~in the ivory tower~~ smugly in the north and speak disparagingly about the south's slavery problem is willfully ignorant.

**~~hawgballs~~** · 11-30-10, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by DJ Mr. White

But witches do exist! I read it in Harry Potter. We just don't notice them because we're muggles!

Only if you believe the Harry Potter novels as much as some would the bible........

**DJ Ms. White** · 11-30-10, 09:26 AM

J.K. Rowling is a prophet. She's the second coming of Tolkien!

**Consultant** · 11-30-10, 09:27 AM

LOL - out of curiosity I looked up the origins of the phrase "ivory tower" and found a few variations of the same basic meaning...sheltered intellectual isolation. I think that describes many parts of the north...and the south.