Thread: "Anti-Student voting bill"

Today fov taught me that the democrats are the good guys, the republicans are the bad guys and ACORN is an innocent organization that was unjustly demonized by the aforementioned bad guys.

I have been so educated by your opinions.

In my long hiatus from the forum, I see I didn't miss much. Same stuff, different day.

Meanwhile, I think that full time residents who pay all manner of taxes should vote on local elections. If you live in a dorm and pay some state sales tax, that doesn't make you an interested party to local elections.

Now, once you move to an apartment and pay (in some indirect fashion) property taxes which fund local services, then you got me...at that point you probably deserve the right to vote in local elections.

Then why can't I vote for governor in other states if I'm on vacation there?

Residency establishes interest in local elections. Local elections decide local issues, funded with local taxes. If a student pays sales tax locally, and that's it - he/she's no more interested in the local politics of the region than I am while on vacation in another part of the country...at least, thats how it seems to me.

I dont remember being very politically active in college though, so maybe I'm biased. I do, however, live in a college town...and the average college kid is no more equipped to pick a city councilman than they are a president. Let them establish permanent residence in their college town...then they can vote there.

No matter how much time I spent in Missouri this year for work, I was never allowed to vote there...why? Because I'm not a resident. The taxes are just a secondary consideration. Students vote all the time, I dont see the point of the law one way or another. I voted all 4(cough*5*cough) years of college,and never once took up perm. residence of the city I was in...until I graduated and bought a house and got a new drivers license.

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Paying taxes isn't a prerequisite to voting, and never has been.

Originally Posted by Non Sequitur Persona

My thesis during this whole conversation has been that obsessive idealogues exist for pretty much every philosophy and backhanded politics is universal.

This is one point I will never dispute. Ever.

Originally Posted by Bunni

as opposed to .... the rest of america? Because clearly everyone else is educating themselves.... this is why we never had to deal with things like discrimination against blacks, women, or gays. Because the masses were educated and knew that if discriminating against blacks was wrong, so was discriminating against women and gays. /sarcasm....

or free health care... ya dont get me started on that one...

I'd "bite" that bait further but i have to head out for class.

Hey now, I never said the rest of the Average Americans weren't just as retarded.. they're just generally older and more lazy than college kids.

Originally Posted by Consultant

Today fov taught me that the democrats are the good guys, the republicans are the bad guys and ACORN is an innocent organization that was unjustly demonized by the aforementioned bad guys.

And there are many many people who want us to believe either that or the polar opposite. As long as left fights right and people keep defending the behavior of their own side - even when it's horrific - and decrying that of the other side - even when it's laudable, we'll be too angry and distracted with the wrong things and not unite against the blatant corruption, waste, and abuse of so many in power.

Here's a watchdog group's 26 Most Corrupt: Home | CREW's Most Corrupt Members of Congress

They're all Republicans, except that they're not.

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

You're not a resident. Hell, you could own a summer home in another state, and you wouldn't be allowed to vote there if you weren't a resident.

What if I go on vacation for a month in a different part of my state? Say, I wanted to take a sabbatical in the Florida Keys for 2 months?

It IS a very fuzzy area. The idea is that you should vote in the community that serves you the most. Where that line is drawn is extremely fuzzy. One college student goes home every single weekend while her roommate only goes home in the summer. One college student works in town and pays local taxes and another goes out with her parents to buy all her clothes at home.

So all the political distraction aside, every citizen should have the best representation possible. But you also need a consistent process that is clear and precise and difficult to corrupt. Since the first one is so fuzzy, I think you need to err in the favor of the others. No permanent residence = no voting there.