Best budget cuts we could make.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-22-11, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by triggerhappy2005

I bet if we cut the military's budget in half, they would become better at purchasing.

I bet they wouldn't. This is an issue that congress has to resolve. Its not like the military gets to decide how much money they get and where that money goes. Sadly its far more complex then that.

**Bunni** · 07-22-11, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by moving-target

you mean dictator

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**wolv** · 08-13-11, 02:03 AM

Bring the troops home from bases all over the world would save billions...just station them here like the rest of the world does.

**Gumby** · 08-13-11, 10:03 AM

I work for the DoD. I can tell you for sure that if we would stop buying two things that do the same thing, billions could be saved. If we stopped having organizations that did the same thing, billions more could be saved. And if we could fix the stupid GS system to where you could actually get fired for screwing up or not doing your job, billions more could be saved. My solution would be to convert all GS to the GG system. Us GGs can be fired and have to actually do our jobs to get promoted. Once that is done, you could save even more money be using far less contractors because your civilians would have to be able to handle the work or be replaced.

Also, I think it is worth noting that while it is the single largest chunk of money in the budget, it is only about 25% of the total budget. Pensions and health care add up to 45% and need to be trimmed as well. Those are more of a long term fix though since IMHO, once you have agreed to pay someone a pension, you owe them that. All you can do there is to change to a 401k for new hires, which they seem to be moving toward. Health care is something else that could probably be done much more efficiently, but I have no specific ideas for that. My stats are from US Federal Budget Pie Chart for FY12 - Charts if you would like the link

**moving-target** · 08-13-11, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Gumby

I work for the DoD. I can tell you for sure that if we would stop buying two things that do the same thing, billions could be saved. If we stopped having organizations that did the same thing, billions more could be saved. And if we could fix the stupid GS system to where you could actually get fired for screwing up or not doing your job, billions more could be saved. My solution would be to convert all GS to the GG system. Us GGs can be fired and have to actually do our jobs to get promoted. Once that is done, you could save even more money be using far less contractors because your civilians would have to be able to handle the work or be replaced.

Also, I think it is worth noting that while it is the single largest chunk of money in the budget, it is only about 25% of the total budget. Pensions and health care add up to 45% and need to be trimmed as well. Those are more of a long term fix though since IMHO, once you have agreed to pay someone a pension, you owe them that. All you can do there is to change to a 401k for new hires, which they seem to be moving toward. Health care is something else that could probably be done much more efficiently, but I have no specific ideas for that. My stats are from US Federal Budget Pie Chart for FY12 - Charts if you would like the link

but how would nepotism work if they changed that system

**moving-target** · 08-13-11, 10:41 AM

getting the fuck outa the mid east would save billions sadams dead bin ladens dead what excuse do we have to be their now fuck thier oil we have our own just the god dam environmentalists in the way we dont need new types of weapons vehicles aircraft the ones we have now get the job done

**Gumby** · 08-13-11, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by moving-target

but how would nepotism work if they changed that system

nepotism is much harder to pull off in the GG system vs the GS system. Hence my solution. And worse, nepotism is not the worst part of it. Since the GS system makes it almost impossible to fire someone for anything, most managers will attempt to promote someone out of a position to get rid of a problematic person. Therefore, you end up with the most incompetent people at the top making the most money and making the decisions.