Should government control electricy?

**CivilWars** · 07-21-11, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

Wouldn't it be nice is life was as easy as that. I think you have your head in the clouds or buried in the sand because you know damn well how much money those companies dump into politicians. Not to mention that the president of progress energy just happens to be on several boards in florida government.

So now you are claiming the government is the problem, since you claim they are the ones keeping the monopoly controlled by progress, yet your solution is to give control to the government? If that is the solution should we next hand over the legal system to inmates?

As for my head it is squarely on my shoulders. Now some people complain about walmart being too big and powerful, but when Sam started people told him it didn't work that way too. Same for Columbus falling off the earth, etc.

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**WickedTribe** · 07-21-11, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

Same for Columbus falling off the earth, etc.

That's a myth. It's been known since the Greeks that the earth was round.

**CivilWars** · 07-21-11, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

That's a myth. It's been known since the Greeks that the earth was round.

You won me over, I now think we should 100% socialize the nation.

/sarcasm

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**dex71** · 07-21-11, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by WickedTribe

That's a myth. It's been known since the Greeks that the earth was round.

Tell that to these winners...
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**deathgodusmc** · 07-21-11, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by CivilWars

So now you are claiming the government is the problem, since you claim they are the ones keeping the monopoly controlled by progress, yet your solution is to give control to the government? If that is the solution should we next hand over the legal system to inmates?

As for my head it is squarely on my shoulders. Now some people complain about walmart being too big and powerful, but when Sam started people told him it didn't work that way too. Same for Columbus falling off the earth, etc.

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Who said that government wasn't corrupt? I know i have never said anything remotely like that.

**Nuckle** · 07-21-11, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

What slope? If you haven't noticed we rolled down that hill already. What we have to do now is start making decisions on whats best for everyone and not the pockets of politicians and big business. Every item on your list is already controled, has a program, or heavily regulated by the government to begin with.

Lately it seems that you argue just for the sake of arguing.

What little control the gov has on the items that I listed is not a comparison to them controlling electricity from the way you presented it.

The more we prop up, support and pay for the more people will want. Once our voting base reaches the point of more takers than givers it is game over. I use to think you got that but lately it seems you do not.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-21-11, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Nuckle

Lately it seems that you argue just for the sake of arguing.

What little control the gov has on the items that I listed is not a comparison to them controlling electricity from the way you presented it.

The more we prop up, support and pay for the more people will want. Once our voting base reaches the point of more takers than givers it is game over. I use to think you got that but lately it seems you do not.

Actually i thought we were discussing the topic at hand.

Im not saying give total control over everything to the government and i would never suggest that to begin with. I have as much distaste for the government as you do. My point is certain items make sense to put in the hands of the government. Which to me is the essentials. Of which you dont agree with and im perfectly fine with that but when someone turn around and tries to make it sound like im suggesting something on a much larger scale or completely off base with what i said of course im going to reply.

**Red_Lizard2** · 07-24-11, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

Back in the day, the same logic was applied to the privately owned bus company here. Within a couple of years, they turned a profitable business into a loser. Now the same company loses millions a day. Gov't ownership isn't always the best answer.

And I would say with public transportation, it would be about efficiency (and such) then how much money it made. To be honest, I'd be wary of any public transportation business that was turning a profit year in and year out.

**DJ Ms. White** · 07-24-11, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

Tell that to these winners...
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**~BigTymer~** · 07-26-11, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

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Thats just a current example for my point. Currently the government controls water supply and gas. So why is electric exempt from this. This a multi billion dollar industry. In central florida alone the rates have gone up a dozen times in the past 2 years. Every time they asked for a rate hike it was agreed to aside from 1 occasion. By the government taking it over they could bring the prices down to a small profit. I had a bigger arguement for this but im curious as to where people stand on this one.

So if all other essentials are done by the government why should power be the exception?

Why? so they can tax the shit out of it too?