Rudolf Hess’s Remains Removed From Grave

**moving-target** · 07-21-11, 01:56 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/wo...pe/22hess.html

so i was talkin to a german contact of mine and was wonderin others input

* mt pokes fforw
<mt> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/22/wo...pe/22hess.html
<mt> wouldnt there be a ton of places in germany that atract the neo nazis?
<mt> i say if the guy has any family sue the fuck outa the town
<mt> even if its like a seconed cousin twice removed
<@fforw> well yes, but apparently Hess' grave was important to them
<mt> still no right to desecrate someones grave just cause they dont want a certin group there
<mt> and now i ponder
<mt> if he was so important to the nazis
<mt> what will they do to the town now
<mt> for desecration of his remains
<mt> most likey nothing but its fun to think of how it would come back to bite them in the ass
<@fforw> if they "do something to the town" they can most likely be arrested
<mt> well the article claims 5-6 k a year visit
<mt> dunno how many at once
<mt> but even if its just broken windows and what not still
<mt> dunno if they got rowdy before or they were just not wanted
<mt> but there was no real harm in just visiting a grave
<mt> it all reads like a political move by a small town mayor
<@fforw> obviously neonazis are not very welcome here..
<mt> well guess you dont have the same freedom rules we are tied to
<mt> KKK nazis and whatnot can march and other stuff i guess
<mt> long as its peaceful

**Guyver** · 07-21-11, 02:05 PM

“It was the right thing to do,” Mr. Beck said.

I agree.

**deathgodusmc** · 07-21-11, 02:15 PM

As long as the family agreed to this i dont see an issue. Which the article said they did. So no harm no foul in my book.

**dex71** · 07-21-11, 06:33 PM

MT.....Don't forget that you can't compare the way we treat the Nazi losers to the way Germans do. Still stings them a bit as it was their people who were implicit in the murder of millions of people. They can blame the management, but it was their Grandparents who carried out the orders, and emptied the trains. Lets just say they don't see the NeoIdiots quite the same way we do.

**hannibal** · 07-21-11, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by dex71

MT.....Don't forget that you can't compare the way we treat the Nazi losers to the way Germans do. Still stings them a bit as it was their people who were implicit in the murder of millions of people. They can blame the management, but it was their Grandparents who carried out the orders, and emptied the trains. Lets just say they don't see the NeoIdiots quite the same way we do.

The Nazi Party is specifically banned in Germany, even the printing of swastikas with a line through them is banned. There is a reason for these strict laws, and Dex put it best. After being found guilty at Nuremberg Herman Gorig said in 50 years there would be statues of him, and Hitler in Germany, another defendant said that this would shame ethnic Germans for a thousand years. The Nazi are not only murderers but they brought an entire nation to ruin, the aftermath of the war was awful for the German people, and they should hate the Nazis for what they did. So as much I am for freedom, I can see why Germans hate Nazis.

-H

**moving-target** · 07-21-11, 11:59 PM

to me it just seems stupid the guys dead and just cause the nazis look up to him his body is removed from its resting place burned to dust and thrown in a lake now i dont belive in souls heaven or hell but when he died his punishment was over no reason to desecrate his grave just cause neo nazis see him as a martyr

**Guyver** · 07-22-11, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by moving-target

just cause neo nazis see him as a martyr

That's exactly why they did it. They had to take anything that might cause an uprising.

**triggerhappy2005** · 07-22-11, 05:16 AM

To this day, it's still a sensitive subject. It is illegal to 'heil hitler' or to wear any nazi insignias.

in fact, in all the years I've lived in Germany, I can't ever recall having a discussion about the nazism either initiated by me or someone else. You just don't discuss it.

**xis** · 07-22-11, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by moving-target

to me it just seems stupid the guys dead and just cause the nazis look up to him his body is removed from its resting place burned to dust and thrown in a lake now i dont belive in souls heaven or hell but when he died his punishment was over no reason to desecrate his grave just cause neo nazis see him as a martyr

Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. The man was partly responsible for the rape, murder and god knows what other horrible acts on innocent people and we're supposed to worry about desecrating his grave? What about the countless that didn't even get a proper grave? What about those that watched their parents burned alive only to be led into the same chambers to be burned alive next.

I didn't even bother reading the article but I say piss on his grave when you're done with it. Anyone who carries out or helps carry out such acts will never get sympathy from me.

**dex71** · 07-22-11, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by moving-target

when he died his punishment was over

Some believe his punishment was just beginning when he died.

And who cares what they did with the POS. If he was bringing the shitbags into a town that didn't want them....more power to them for getting rid of him. He did enough damage when he was alive. He certainly doesn't deserve any kind of respect......even after death. He was a mass-murderer.....and we know he didn't extend any respect towards the millions he helped kill. Piss on him.