Thread: Republican debate from tonight, 07SEP

Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

There is always the libertarian party if they ever get their heads out of their asses (they seem to be taking in the "fiscal libertarians" who still like social conservative policies lately, which is highly disappointing)

Yep, libertarians are, unfortunately, generally a bit too far off into the extremes of economic conservatism, and most of them are still very socially conservative. There's absolutely no reason why religious extremism needs to be tied to the desire for smaller government. Hell, when you get into things like the DOMA, the philosophies conflict completely. Unfortunately, with the two-party system, this kind of bundling is unavoidable.

The same thing was said in the 60's about JFK that because he was catholic that the Pope was going to Run the Country.... did it happen No. So I just don't understand all the flap about Social Conservatives. I just want someone who will Run the Country I could care less about his religion ! Last I heard there still is Freedom of Religion.... pray to whoever or whatever floats your boat ! You have religious zealots in All Religions from evengalists to radical muslims but I think the Majority of people fall somewhere in the middle. When the Jehova's Witnesses come to the door I say .... Not Interested and slam the door.

Originally Posted by Pint

Well this is longer then I anticipated, but I think being a 'party isolationist' is a very very bad stance to take would be the long and short.


I keep hoping, maybe foolishly, that the repubs can get back to basic conservativism so there is a contrast of government philosophy that is viable for people who think the social issues of the current gang are repugnant. During the height of the civil rights movement of the 60's you had the anti-black bunch dispersed between both parties, the end result was the issue could of resolved with out one party loosing a disproportionate amount of face by conceding the virtue of the argument. The same is true with state/church separation, both parties had members that crossed the line, the turn of the century socialist Christian movement gave us lots of religious language and notions that should never of been admitted, and the extreme right Catholic group did the same during the commie scare of the 50's. Now all the haters are in one party in regards to homosexuals, now all the Christian nation folks are in the same party as well. It's dangerous shit.

I try my best to keep tabs on the right even though I dislike most of them, and in some cases have thinking on some of the philosophy they spread an actual feeling of rage, but the simple fact of the matter is we need two functioning parties who don't have a divide along social issue lines. It puts people like me who aren't dogmatic about fundamental right/left stances in a position where we can't vote republican because of the absolutely immoral and or ignorant stances they take. Give me the Jeffersonian and Linconite Repubs back please.

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Originally Posted by Red_Lizard2

There is always the libertarian party if they ever get their heads out of their asses (they seem to be taking in the "fiscal libertarians" who still like social conservative policies lately, which is highly disappointing)

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Originally Posted by WickedTribe

Yep, libertarians are, unfortunately, generally a bit too far off into the extremes of economic conservatism, and most of them are still very socially conservative. There's absolutely no reason why religious extremism needs to be tied to the desire for smaller government. Hell, when you get into things like the DOMA, the philosophies conflict completely. Unfortunately, with the two-party system, this kind of bundling is unavoidable.

This too. Fucking humans....scourge of the earth.

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Originally Posted by BruceBloodMaster

The same thing was said in the 60's about JFK that because he was catholic that the Pope was going to Run the Country.... did it happen No. So I just don't understand all the flap about Social Conservatives. I just want someone who will Run the Country I could care less about his religion ! Last I heard there still is Freedom of Religion.... pray to whoever or whatever floats your boat ! You have religious zealots in All Religions from evengalists to radical muslims but I think the Majority of people fall somewhere in the middle. When the Jehova's Witnesses come to the door I say .... Not Interested and slam the door.

I'm not sure what this has to do with freedom of religion.