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**deputyfestus** · 12-19-11, 07:06 AM

Originally Posted by salty99

quoted from my friend's facebook

‎"As he spent his last few breaths, late at night working at his desk hours after everybody else had gone home while simply wishing he could give more of himself to the Korean people, Kim Jong Il was raptured into the heavens by a band of celestial warriors. Soon after his soul's departure golden rain fell from the clouds and a triple rainbow arced across the sky." -Source: North Korean National News. Seems legit.

lol

If they only knew......the golden showers and triple rainbows was just Xav doing a flyover.

**Mobi** · 12-19-11, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by deputyfestus

If they only knew......the golden showers and triple rainbows was just Xav doing a flyover.

that deserves to be a signature.... touche.....

**Xavsnipe** · 12-19-11, 07:58 AM

They say his son is worse.

**deathgodusmc** · 12-19-11, 08:02 AM

Im no weather forecaster but how did he have triple rainbows in low humidity and no rain? Im also not a religious person at all but if there is i hope someone is butt fucking is ass in hell with a wire brush.

**SpecOpsScott** · 12-19-11, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by AetheLove

Nope. No chance.

There's more than a BILLION Chinese. Many of them are armed.

I'm comforted only by their lack of boats and the width of the Pacific ocean. There are very few places in the world where many of them could show up quickly, but North Korea is one of those places.

I don't think the US will be interfering quite so directly in North Korean affairs.

Cheers,

AetheLove

Nope, but now is the time to pour on the diplomacy with wild abandon.

**AetheLove** · 12-19-11, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK!

The Chinese got our balls in a vice already through economics, anyway. They'd be stupid to pick a fight with the people that owe them a trainload of money - if they start a war, ain't like we're gonna be giving them money then.

Besides, picking a fight with the US would probably get the rest of NATO involved and while China is big, they aren't that big. Or that stupid.

If the US tried to play kingmaker in North Korea, the US would be picking a fight with China - not the other way around.

Cheers,

AetheLove

**deathgodusmc** · 12-19-11, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by AetheLove

If the US tried to play kingmaker in North Korea, the US would be picking a fight with China - not the other way around.

Cheers,

AetheLove

No we wouldn't. China is not North Korea. So if we decided to try China would have to pick a fight with us. Besides China will not take up arms against us. They'll threaten but the guns would never leave the armory. China may have more troops but they aren't stupid. In the land of war he who can take the fight to the enemy and wage precision whop ass wins. We can and China cant.

As for the UN both China and the US hold veto power. So that would be interesting to see unfold. Personally i think the UN would have to take emergence power over both vetos and with NK's history China would most likely lose.

**AetheLove** · 12-19-11, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by deathgodusmc

No we wouldn't. China is not North Korea. So if we decided to try China would have to pick a fight with us.

It would be an enormous diplomatic provocation. Imagine if China tried to take direct action to engineer a new government in Cuba.

We don't even like the current gov't of Cuba - but if the Chinese showed up and started actively building a regime that suited their tastes you can bet your ass that the US would take it as more than a little bit aggressive.

Now imagine it if Cuba was physically connected to the US, sharing a 1000 kilometre border. Now imagine it if we've been allies with Cuba for more than 60 years.

North Korea is clearly in China's zone of influence. Anything the US does beyond it's current level of diplomatic involvement is provocative.

I didn't follow the six-party talks closely, but I do know that China isn't always pleased with the nutjobs that run the DPRK - so maybe change is something they'd be happy with too. But I'm pretty sure this will be a case of "No one hits my little brother but me."

Also - I think you over-estimate the US's ability to enforce their political will in North Korea through military means. The terrain is insanely difficult. Even so, for the Chinese to put a million troops in the DPRK is a relatively minor logistical problem. If it came to it, they could walk there. Beijing is only 400 miles from the DPRK.

Could the US put on a good war if they had to? Probably. But what does that entail? Think about where the bulk of our national defence would be. The Russians have a border with the DPRK too. How are the Russians going to feel about a massive American force right there?

What about our allies? For example; I think the South Koreans are more than grateful for the political and military support they get, but they would absolutely shit their pants if we started taunting the Chinese.

What about us? We are just now ending an 8 year war/conflict in a far away place. Popular support for that war (or those wars) was luke-warm at its highest. There was never unified popular support. How are the voters going to feel about an even larger commitment of forces to North Korea? Going to war with China over the political future of North Korea? Seriously - how the hell do you sell that?

Cheers,

AetheLove

**triggerhappy2005** · 12-19-11, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Stealthyking

Does anyone else have a strange feeling the U.S May step in and NOT allow this to happen? (his son that is)

No.

**chray00** · 12-19-11, 10:46 AM

The first thing that always come to my mind when thinking of NK

anyway, are they a threat yet? Did they finally manage to lauch a missile that wouldn't crash in the sea a few hundred meters later?

If not, who the hell cares.